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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Based on these responses you can be upper class while earning $100k in investments, sitting on a not for profit board and living extremely modestly. But upper middle while earning $1 million. [/quote]

We are borderline of UMC and UC. $3m HHI, few properties, can technically retire but cannot maintain current lifestyle without working.

Some people may say we are definitely UC. I consider ourselves UMC. [/quote]

If you were born UMC your tastes will be - and that really define you.  You are just rich UMC.  Strivers here don’t get that.[/quote]

Wait. Class has come up several times on this thread, and isn't that what that entire book is all about?[/quote]

Yes. That’s the whole point of the book and what a lot of middle class folks find so off putting. It’s also why they hate talking about class (ie, because they’re deeply insecure about their own class position with some even using threads like this as a crowdsourced “how to social climb” manual).  No matter how much money they have, they’ll never live down their middle or lower class upbringing. It’ll manifest itself through various tells and behaviors. So folks should just relax a little stop striving. [/quote]

A lot of truly wealthy people don't care about "class" - and why should they? They have enough money to buy a ranch in Jackson Hole to get away from classists.  Also, money may not equal class, but it is a prerequisite to class.  No one cares about your family of origin if you're broke or working in mid-level management. [/quote]

That’s another point of what true UC is according to Fussell. They have “f you” money that allows them to be weird or cheap or rude in ways that are more aligned with the working classes. And their wealth and class allows them to get away with it. [/quote]

That's not just according to Fussell. It's also true across societies and time periods. The noveau riche can't do it even though they have "f you" money, because the old money is always judging them. [/quote]

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