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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Better peer group.  That's the big deal.  That's the only deal.[/quote]

[b]I'm not even 100% sure that's true.  At our center, the aap kids got cell phones younger.  [/b]Definitely glad we didn't start the peer pressure on that stuff so young. 
My Gen Ed kid wanted to be there, and recommends it for younger sibling....and it comes down to that the Gen Ed teachers have too many levels/groups in a classroom so the kids who are ahead just spend most of their time without much to do.[/quote]

This.  [b]The queen-bee mean girl types are usually bright with strong social skills and involved parents.  Those kids are also getting into AAP. [/b] My DD was mocked in [b]2nd grade[/b] for the clothing brands she was wearing by girls who left for the AAP center the following year.

I agree that the gen ed teachers will ignore the kids who are advanced.  If an advanced gen ed kid is self motivated and has reasonably high executive function, the lack of teacher attention won't matter that much.  My DD spent tons of free time reading through the school library and working independently on various projects.  One of the sad ironies about AAP admissions is that the kids who are above grade level but with lower GBRS/HOPE scores are the ones who likely need the structure, expectations, and prodding from AAP the most.  The kids who have the high teacher ratings and thus are the most likely to be admitted into AAP are going to bloom wherever they're planted.  [/quote]

Unfortunately that is true too, but in the long run isn't that better than [b]chair throwers and kids with Derek Zoolander level reading skills[/b]? I say pick your poison.[/quote]
I don't know where you live, but these kids do not exist at our FCPS elementary school. [/quote]
lol. We have elementary schools where 1 in 4 can’t even speak English. And others where there are entire classes dddicated for mainstreaming and get an extra aid. [/quote]
Yes well, you chose to live where you live.[/quote]
And AAP centers are great. [/quote]

Not so great when your base school is a center.  The segregation is weird and causes weird issues.  Although I think some of the families are more humbled now in middle school....[/quote]
You choose to live where you live.[/quote]

Unfortunately when we moved here our base wasn't a center yet....so it's not what we chose but it's what we got stuck with[/quote]
The ESL population that has tripled over the last decade.

Again, you could always move and still can.

AAP centers works for me.[/quote]

A lot of aap kids struggle, and end up in classes in MS with Gen Ed kids.  A lot of aap parents were the ones asking the most questions about test retakes in honor math at back to school night.  My lowly Gen Ed kid has no reason to need to request a retake yet.  So stay on your high horse, but in the end the cream always rises.  
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+1 my genEd ES kid took algebra 1 honors in 8th (gasp!). They got a 100 in the class and a perfect SOL score. Many of the 7th graders in the class, the ES AAP kids, struggled to maintain a decent grade. Similarly, some of the ES AAP kids struggled to keep up with some genEd kids in the other MS honors classes. AAP might provide a stronger peer group in ES, but once courses are open enrollment, it doesn’t really lead to better academic outcomes. Bottom line, admittance to AAP is subjective for a decent number of the kids. It might provide a better experience for those chosen, but it certainly doesn’t mean that the chosen ones are inherently intellectually superior to their genEd peers, nor will it guarantee better outcomes. Not dismissing it’s a valuable opportunity for ES students - particularly those in low SES schools - but please be reassured that it’s not a leg up past ES. [/quote]

75% of the county takes Algebra 1 by 8th grade, so I am not sure why you think it is surprising that your kid took A1H in 8th grade. And I don’t know why you are surprised that he did well in it, kids should be taking math classes at a pace that allows them to excel. I am glad that your kid did well.

I am guessing that you are at a MS that is not one of the four feeders. At Carson the 7th graders are in their own Algebra classes, they don’t mix 7th and 8th graders in classes. I would guess that there are some 7th graders who struggle with A1H, it is a faster pace and some kids are going to struggle. That is why some kids drop to M7H or expunge the grade and retake it. I know kids who got Bs in 7th grade A1H but they are fine with that grade.

We come from a school that didn’t have LLIV and the kids came out of advanced math. My kid and some of his friends joined AAP in MS and fit in just fine. Some of his friends joined the honors classes and did just fine. The AAP battles are kind of crazy to me.

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I think my sarcasm was lost on you. The “gasp” was that my DC was one of the low lifes that didn’t take it until 8th. I was trying to be funny. [/quote]

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