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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP: we’re a team who had an 8&u DQed because the swimmer wore a sun shirt for the race during an A meet. I was surprised no one caught it before the child swam. I’m sure the child and family didn’t know that the shirts weren’t allowed. I’d support the rule change to address this type of issue. Don’t see how the shirt could be used for any type of advantages.[/quote]

What situation in your example are you correcting with a change to the rules for 102 clubs and 17,000 swimmers?  An 8&U wore a sunshirt (for a 25!) and the coaches, reps, clerk of course, and myriad timers all missed it before the kid swam?  How is this any different than a kid showing up with the wrong cap, or prior to this year, [b]the wrong suit?[/b][/quote]

What do you mean by this? You can wear can wear any suit in NVSL as long as it doesn’t have tie backs.[/quote]

Until last year you couldn’t wear a suit with a logo of another team. For example you couldn’t wear a Potomac marlins suit in an Nvsl meet [/quote]

Incorrect.  You could always wear another team logo suit (long time rep here) but last year a few officials took it upon themselves to say you could not or misunderstood the rule. So a clairification was added. [/quote]

DP
Yes, this is true. Thanks. I was going to post the same thing. [/quote]
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the rule actually applied to caps. And then some eager clerks of clerks took it upon themselves to enforce it for suits too. So they had to clarify the suit policy. [/quote]

Is monitoring swim attire part of the clerk of course duties? Shouldn’t they be impartial and just seed/checkin the kids and walk them to their lanes?[/quote]
There is no coaching in Clerk, so they’re the last line of defense to prevent avoidable DQs. We ask our Clerk to check our swimmers for watches, PVS caps, etc. that the coaches or parents may have missed in the chaos. I’m not talking about getting involved in tech suit legality or official judging matters. It has nothing to do with being impartial or reporting to the ref, more just making sure someone didn’t forget to take off their watch or accidentally wore a club swim cap. In doing this, I think some clerks misunderstood the rule and also told kids they couldn’t wear a PVS-branded suit. Hence, the clarifying rule change. [/quote]

Seems like there is disparity across NVSL on this. Our clerk of course did not do this, nor did visiting teams. We’re the team that had a DQ because a 8&u wore the sunshirt.[/quote]
I didn’t mean to imply that it’s part of their official duties. Some teams ask their A Meet CoC to look out for watches, wrong caps, etc. and remind swimmers to remove them. That’s all. It’s like a parent yelling “goggles!” to a seven year old whose goggles are still perched on top of his head right before the start. [/quote]

Our CoC does this for all in CoC regardless of team which is where the impartiality comes from.  They also keep a stock of extra caps/goggles for the unexpected break or forgetful kid.  [/quote]

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