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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Easy to tell 90% of the posters on this thread have never lived in Europe and get their entire perspective of life in Europe from a tik tok clip showing progressive liberal people in hip neighborhoods in Paris or Berlin. [/b]

As someone who's actually lived in Europe long enough and still spends plenty of time in Europe in various countries, it's indisputable that incomes are higher - substantially higher - in the United States. Average income in the entire UK is lower than the average income in Mississippi, the poorest state in the US. At the same time cost of living in the popular key European cities where the better jobs are isn't necessarily low either. Anyone looked at the cost of housing in London (or most of Britain in general?). Or Paris? Very expensive. Pretty much only rich people and poor people in subsidized housing live in most central European capital cities. Middle class and everyday people live in suburbs and outer neighborhoods, with long commutes on public transportation. Many Europeans somehow end up coming to the US for work and completely fall in love with the ease of suburban American life. And there's no shortage of poor neighborhoods in Europe too, the banlieues of Paris, the housing estates of Britain, the crowded tenements of migrants living off generous doles that is causing enormous cultural strife across Europe. And there's small dying towns and villages (speaking to the person complaining about small town America).

Europe does have a large enough affluent upper middle class but most Europeans are not in this category. And there's widespread fears across Western Europe over economic insecurity and decline in standards of living and mass migration. Few people are taking things for granted or thinking the future is rosy. [/quote]

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It’s like the women on Reddit who praise European parental leaves but don’t understand it’s $250-300 a week, the woman likely had finances independent of her partner/husband (meaning she’d have $0 of support) and there is the expectation the woman spends significant time away from work to watch a young child and also expected to return.

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Thank you! I find it so weird when people say how it's so much better for women in Europe. Really? Because I remember it being hard to get hired as people thought I WOULD leave for a baby, and then looking at me like a criminal if I DIDN"T take time to be with baby. There's no cjhoice but to 1) not have kids or 2) be mommy-tracked. is that others experience? There's a dark side to being entitled to "generous" leave and it's not always in favor of fmailies or women. [/quote]

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