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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I noticed that my DD (Ivy admit) and her classmates who were admitted to top schools did not need, or use, private counselors/coaches. Obviously, these kids don't need the help, but it also makes me wonder if the schools sense who is using private counselors and holding it against those applicants.[/quote]

Agree. No private counselor or class tutoring or any of that bs for us or any of the true top kids. Both parents work full time, all we did is take days off to make time for tours on the days the kids needed to take them based on their school and AP schedule. Both have extraordinary organizational skills and managed the deadlines, interviews, demonstrated interest for the likely schools, all that. Their school also helps as they edit essays in english class after the AP Lit or language exam in 11th: a similar model is used by most public and private schools in our area. The magnet and the privates each have at least one former T25 AO working in college advising.
Both at different ivies, unhooked. Both have very high GPAs and are invigorated by the ambitious culture at each. They have however met students at each who mention loads of tutoring in high school and/or cheating in high school, and cannot keep up with ivy rigor. It is the minority for sure but that group is present at ivies. It does not go well for them because they realize they are actual imposters among a group of majority more qualified individuals. There are some hooked kids from their high school who got into different elite/ivy and struggled academically and/or mental health in recent years. TO and all the hooks will be looked back upon as a large mistake in admissions. Ivy professors openly mention TO as a negative. [/quote]

I find it so fascinating how parents feel they must continue to be superior once their kids are in to a top school. Likely you dont know everyone’s story or who is struggling and why and if so … even creepier [/quote]

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