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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know I will get slammed, but most of these marriages are dead and transactional by that point anyway. It’s rarely a shock to anyone, and in retrospect, often a blessing.[/quote]
Marriage shouldn’t stop a father from being a father. If his marriage dissolves he’s no longer a husband, but he’s still a father. That isn’t an excuse for dead beats. [/quote]

Some moms want to cover up their affair and play happy family with the ap.  Dad’s role is only money and she refuses contact and alienates the kids.  It goes both ways.  [/quote]
Nope. You can’t alienate the kids if you’re an involved caring parent to begin with. Stop making excuses for lazy men who refuse to parent.[/quote]

Yes you can. You refuse phone calls and don’t have the kids there for dad’s time.  Go to court, judge fusses at mom, mom makes promises and still refuses.  Repeat.  Kids want to please so they want to please mom or there are consequences.  [/quote]
That’s not how it works. If the guy is a good dad, the kids will want to call him and talk to him. They will want to see him and spend time with him. They will not take kindly to mom telling them no. Maybe you or your kids were exceptionally doormat-ish, but that’s not how most kids are. [b]You can’t alienate someone else who the kids cherish and idolize. 
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Just sounds like you weren’t a very good dad to begin with if the switch flips that easily 🤷‍♀️[/quote]

I am a woman who has a male friend who is currently dealing with this - his wife, who will eventually be his ex-wife but I hesitate to say STBX because I think it's going to take a long time - is abusing the system and alienating their daughter from him. He was the primary caregiver for their daughter most of her life (they both work but his job is more flexible) and dad and daughter are so close. All of our friends' kids, including mine, greatly prefer the dad to the mom, but the mom is lobbing insane allegations against the dad and is refusing to let him contact their daughter (she has moved with her to their vacation house). She has filed PPOs, which have been dismissed, pressed charges, filed a complaint with CPS, and is suing for full custody. He's knocking down the things one by one but they each take time and in the meantime he hasn't been able to see or talk to his daughter. I have no doubt the mom is doing her best to poison the girl against her dad and it's just crazy. So while I certainly hope that she won't be successful in her ultimate goal of completely alienating the daughter from her dad, but she's done a damn good job at keeping them apart for the last six weeks and who knows how much longer. I don't know how old you think these kids are, but when they can't drive and the parents control their devices, and therefore their communications, you absolutely can keep kids from a parent they long to see. Hopefully not forever, but I think you'd do some good to back off a bit and realize that you don't understand every situation and your stupid emojis and absolute statements aren't appropriate. [/quote]
Do you think the daughter has forgotten her dad in the past 6 weeks? No, she has not.

You can stop visits and control communications yes. You cannot alienate them if the bond is already there. You are welcome to scroll past my posts if you like, but take your misogynistic garbage outta here blaming all women for their sh!tty partners being sh!tty dads who abandon their kids. [/quote]

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