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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Holy Christ.  I'm so happy that my DD is a rising junior and won't have to deal with all of this BS moving forward.

I realize that many get their rocks off with the speculation of what club is leaving next, in the grad scheme of things, does it really matter?

Maybe if you have girls or boys that are in their younger tween years, yeah, it could matter.  But, I really think that if you have quality as a player, you will get seen and end up where you belong.

Good luck.  [/quote]

I think the ECNL continues to target a wealthier, college focused demographic and MLSN focuses on the pro pathway. Incentives drive the outcomes. ECNL will push to send kids to college programs and MLS will attempt to develop players that can be sold.

That said, ECNL teams play MLSN teams several times a year in tourneys and friendlies and both academy scouts and college scouts are at both league events. If the kid is good, they will be seen. Find the club that fits your child best and do not worry so much about acronyms.

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MLSN isnt just for playing pro.

Players work their butt off to play professionally but sometimes it doesn't work out. In this situation playing in college is the fallback. Just like how D1 coaches love foreign Academy washouts. They also love MLSN Academy players.

So dont think that MLSN is only for playing professionally. Its both pro and college. ECNL on the other hand is college only. See why MLSN is appealing? If you can make it to the top levels multiple doors are open for you. As a college coach who would you choose? A player that played and practiced with MLS pro players. Or one that played at a club level only? [/quote]"As a college coach who would you choose?" The smarter one that can get into college and didn't waste too much time missing school for cross country events.[/quote]

You chose the smarter one that was able to keep up grades while traveling cross country to do MLSN events.  You act like College soccer doesnt do travel during the season.  Did you think College stops because of an away game. [/quote]Do you own stock in MLSN? It's just a random league that replaced another league and will be replaced by another league in the future.[/quote]

Sorry your kid did not make team.  [/quote]Arlington just seems like a better program than Achilles and as someone else showed awhile ago, college placements on the boys side from ECNL and MLSN pay to play were similar.

Crazy to be stumping for a team, crazier to be stumping for a club, craziest to be stumping for a league.[/quote]

Not sure how Achilles got lumped in but I’ll bite.  Achilles is a boutique club that’s a fraction of the size and budget of Arlington. They have a player on USMNT U16 and a U16 starting on a Bundesliga academy team.   Can Arlington, with far greater numbers and massive budget, say the same?  [/quote]Case stuffs are useless for proper analysis. Do you have a numbers?[/quote]

Please Arlington sends tons of kids to Academies every year and has a far better college track record. Great for the 1 or 2 players at Achilles who has done well with national team but 1
Player does not make a club and isn’t a statistically significant argument. Show me the track record for dozens and I will bite. Arlingtons top teams (as opposed to its huge rec and lower travel programs where most of the budget goes ) do quite well with Academies and D1 soccer. [/quote]

So serious question, do clubs actively try to get their kids into colleges? Like make unsolicited recommendations?

I’ve not expected clubs to do that but mainly bc I assume clubs are just trying to develop players to be good enough for college soccer and more.

How have Arlington players scouted into academies done? Have they gone on to play pro? For that matter, how have kids recruited into academies from other MLSNext clubs done? Did they end up going pro or just gone ahead to college?

I’m genuinely curious as to what parents expectations are about what clubs can do for them. I know Bethesda is attractive for many because it’s “better” for playing in college. Does that mean they just do better so are able to get to better showcases (flex, cup, etc) or do the coaches do anything extra? All I know about college recruiting is that the player has to actively advocate for themselves. The clubs are just there to verify the players claims that they are a baller or make sure their teams attend certain events. But even then, colleges have ID events too.

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[b]Make no mistake. A well respected club coach or TD with college connections opens a lot of doors.[/b] Yes, no matter ECNL or MLSN players must own their own recruiting process. Unless you are top 10 in the country you need to have film and engage. BUT if you are at a club that has a relationship coaches you get looks. Certain TDs get calls from colleges asking who is up and coming that they should look at. The club is not going to do the job for you--but they can help in many ways. [/quote]

Men or Women's - makes a huge difference.  The D1 landscape for US college men is really tough.  My nephew is a rising senior and just committed the past Spring to play D1, P4 soccer.  It was a slog to get to that point.  It is his "dream" school and was willing to wait them out and was ecstatic to get a spot despite not having a ton of athletic money sent his way.

Agree with the relationship aspect.  Having a well connect coach and/or technical director makes a difference in terms of knowing programs, college coaches, who does what when in recruiting and reputation of the program.  My DD is a rising HS junior and is right in the thick of this - she's on an official visit now with Mom.  I would say that our club overall has done a pretty good job of passing along information, sharing thoughts and being available to answer questions.  We just brought on an official position of someone as college recruiting coordinator, so up to this point, it's been the TD and club coach that have been guiding the process.

What has been interesting is the $$ that is available - schools with large football programs - think Big10 and SEC - seem to have more $$ to throw around than other schools, even those in the ACC.  Not every ACC school, but some are just not forking out the $$.  Just interesting to see how things are progressing with the settlement and roster cap of 28 and being able to offer 28 scholarships if you have the cash.

Oh yeah.  Just to contribute to the thread topic.  I struggle to see how the GA would absorb another club in Northern VA whether it's Arlington, VDA or whatever. There are already three clubs within spitting distance with VRSC, NVA and LS.   I'm at a point as well as not caring much either with a DD who only has two years left and is in position to commit to a college in a few weeks.  The biggest goal then becomes staying healthy and fit and working with the selected school on a development plan for the next two years.  Good Luck.[/quote]

“P4 Men’s Soccer” isn’t a thing. SEC and Big 12 don’t have men’s soccer. [/quote]

And not everyone in the ACC and Big Ten has men’s soccer either.[/quote]
+1. Very little of P4s post made much sense or rung true.[/quote]

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