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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How old are the kids? The example you gave wouldn’t be something I’d notice. The kid is stating a fact (they’re different brands).[/quote]

If the jackets are both the same shade of green, then they match regardless of brand and it's weird and rude for the second kid to draw a distinction based on the brand.

That's also definitely a learned behavior. The kid is conscious of the brand and the idea that it is nicer/more expensive.Thats coming from parents.[/quote]

Probably not much of a learned behavior. Kids have access to a ton of information. Group think is strong. Remember what kids were snobby about when you were kids? Did that come from your parents? My parents weren’t aware of all that.

Kids like brands that aren’t remotely relevant to us. They’re capable of following their own group think.[/quote]

16 yr olds, yes -- brand preferences are influenced more by media and peers. But younger kids are mimicing parents. I also know adults who insist on referring to their belongings by brand -- "I left my Patagonia in the Audi" -- and kids will pick up on that and mimic it as part of language learning. If an elementary school kid is very aware of and vocal about brands, that probably coming from family culture.[/quote]

I have many jackets and we have four cars. I may describe item with brand. However, I can’t imagine in what scenario I would say this to another person. I may tell DH that I left my black Patagonia or blue montcler in the Lexus. Could he please get it. I may say our son left his Celtics sweatshirt or blue Nikes. I’m not sure how else to describe the item.[/quote]

Lol if you are needing to specify "blue montcler" to distinguish it from your other montclers, then yes you are a brand snob and your kids are picking up on it and probably copying it. Overconsumption of luxury goods is part of brand snobbery and kids especially absorb that kind of behavior and it becomes normal to them to have, for instance, multiple of the same luxury item in different colors, without any awareness that this is a level of luxury and consumption accessible to less than 1% of the global population.

This is how rich kids become horrible snobs, because they don't even realize what they are doign is snobbery or condescending. They don't understand their own privilege and wealth. It is your job as their parent to give them context and help them understand that your lifestyle is atypical and they need to learn to be thoughtful and self-aware. But then... that requires you to be thoughtful and self-aware. Are you?[/quote]

Yes, this is a good point.  I didn't know what Montcler was so had to google it- you could absolutely describe that in a way that does not involved the brand.  But brands are an important marker for you so you use the brand.  To some extent a brand can signal higher quality (eg a Patagonia jacket is going to be better for extreme temperatures than a Target branded one) but there are diminishing returns for that.

I don't know the actual brands of coats that my kids have- I just looked and one is North Face and one is Patagonia.  If I wanted my husband to get a specific jacket out I would say "can you grab the blue puffy one from the minivan (sedan/ SUV)" because I don't think the distinguishing factor is the brand.  Since you do, that makes you brand concious and that likely seeps into your children[/quote]

This is a stretch. You could just as easily say “my GAP raincoat” or “my blue Burberry trench.” It makes it easier for DH because he can quickly look at the label and see that it says GAP or Burberry. It doesn’t mean she thinks brands are super important. [/quote]

We do this when we travel with bags. I may say the big tumi or the away suitcase. I will also say the Burberry or Chanel bag by the kitchen counter. I could also describe bag as Star Wars or unicorn, whatever is the easiest way to describe a bag when there are many.[/quote]

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