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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Judging by the number of 4s and 5s being reported, I'd say the tests are too easy. Or anything below a 4 isn't worth mentioning.

Anyone know when/where a distribution of scores will be published?[/quote]
My kids' school pre-tests all of the AP kids in late February, and they discourage anyone from taking the AP exam who isn't already at a high 3 level at that time.  Unsurprisingly, when the results come out, all of the kids allowed to take the test earn 4s and 5s.  The tests aren't necessarily too easy.  There's a ton of self selection in who is taking the exams and who is opting out.

I agree, though, that anything below a 4 is unlikely to help with admissions or grant any credit.  [/quote]

My kids’ school does this too.  They also adjust year end grades to reflect AP scores.  So kids are likely to score in the 4/5 range IF they take the exam.[/quote]

I’ve never heard of a school doing this! What about students who want to take it to get college credit. Even a 3 will earn credit at many colleges. That’s a terrible
Policy. [/quote]

It’s probably Basis, or anyway Basis has a policy like this. It’s for-profit. And that’s the problem with for-profit schools, the policies are designed to make the school look good even if it hurts the kids. [/quote]

Yay.  A frothing at the mouth Basis hater jumping into a thread to spread misinformation.  Just what we all needed.  :roll: 
I'm the first PP who said that my kid's school discourages kids from taking the AP if they're not on track to earn a 4 or 5.  And yes, it is Basis.  The key word here is "discourages", which is not the same as "prohibits."  Any kid at Basis who is not recommended to take an AP can still do so.  The only real difference is that Basis won't pay for the AP exam if the kid fails.

I think pre-testing the kids around late February, letting them know what score they would have earned on a real test, and then recommending them or not for the real test is a great policy that helps the kids immensely.  Basis pays for the AP tests that they think your kid will pass, which is a lot better than most schools, where you have to pay for it.  The system where kids are not recommended helps kids either avoid taking an exam that they will likely fail or helps them understand that they need to study hard and kick it into gear to pass the exam.  One anecdote I have is that one of my kid's friends was not recommended for AP Physics I.  He opted to take it anyway, crammed hard, and attended a lot of office hours with the teacher.  He ended up earning a 4 on the test.

FWIW, I checked UVA, and for the most part, you need a 4 or 5 to earn any college credit.  Not that many schools give credit for 3s.  It's debatable that it makes sense for either the parents or school to pay for an AP exam that likely won't earn any college credit.  [/quote]

We are fortunate to be in a public school that pays for the exams - regardless of result. You can rationalize your school's policy all you want. I'm not convinced at all. It merely contributes to the "everyone must succeed, no failures" culture we've cultivated. It's not a waste of time for a student to take a hard exam and not do well. It can open their eyes to what college expectations v. high school expectations are. It can instill some needed humility in a kid who otherwise has always been told nothing but how wonderful he is.  Your school's policy is driven by self-interest. How many "discouraged" students do you think go ahead and take the exam anyway? How many believe their teachers that they're not good enough and don't take the exam?

You really don't know how a student is going to perform an any given exam. My kid went into her AP Lit exam knowing she needed a 5 for credit at her future college and absolutely confident there was no way she would get a 5. She got a 5.  She had no idea what she'd get on some of her others, took them anyway. She got 5's and one 4. Except for one of them, I don't think she really thought she'd get a 5. And there was no prediction practice test mid-year. BTW, a 3 is not a "failed" exam; but I guess the definition of "fail" at Basis is different. APs aren't pass/fail per se - they're credit/no credit.[/quote]

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