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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My elite private high school was one of the first to “drop” AP courses. The school profile sent to colleges now says—
“Our highest level courses have the designation of “CL” (for “College Level”) on the transcript. We consider these to be
AP level or higher.”[/quote]

It’s called branding. The courses are still mostly the same content. If you look at Sidwell catalogue, AP Calculus BC is now Calculus I and II which is how it is traditionally taught at (community) colleges. Only extra from the AP curriculum is separable second order differential equations, which is covered in Multivariable in much more depth. Whatever college level they claim, it’s doubtful the classes would get college credit, and for sure they are not dual enrollment classes because there’s no other institution the student is enrolled in.

Calculus, like all lower division major requirements is a standard course, there’s not that much variation in content. Dual enrollment courses are closer to a college course in content, but AP will do just fine.

In my opinion this repackaging is silly, parents choose private not because the curriculum is different, it’s because of different instruction style, more attention, smaller classes, better environment etc.[/quote]

I would not send my kids to any school that still uses the AP curriculum.  My own kids are at a private high school that offers college credit through DE for their own advanced coursework.

You really think that the nation's wealthiest high schools cannot create better and more rigorous classes than the AP company that sells a standardized curriculum designed for the average, low-performing public high school?
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You need to brush up on your logic.
If private high schools rely on dual enrollment at another institution for advanced classes, then it’s not their own advanced coursework.

I absolutely think that College Board with $1B in revenue can create a better course framework, educational materials and exams than the ten teachers in the math department at Sidwell.

AP is not designed for the average student. About 200k students take AP calculus. That’s 5% of the student population. Only about 1% of all students get a 5 on the exam.[/quote]

These better high schools are teaching the advanced coursework themselves and then offering you college credit through dual enrollment with a partner college.

Also, [b]AP courses are absolutely designed for mass consumption[/b] and have become ubiquitous and rather meaningless.  At any decent high school, the standard coursework is now AP and 5 is the norm.  Anything less than 5 is a sign of problems.[/quote]

Of course calculus is a standardized  course designed for mass education. Literally over a million of students take it every year in high school or college. A third all college students take it because it’s required by their major. It’s a tool needed for more advanced coursework.

You think “elite high schools” reinvent calculus? No, they teach the same concepts and techniques, it’s the same curriculum. Read the course descriptions at various colleges and the textbooks they use, same stuff presented slightly differently.

There are valid reasons to choose privates, but curriculum rigor is not one of them.[/quote]

The rigor of AP Calculus (BC) is an absolute joke.  If you are satisfied with that, I really don't know what to tell you.[/quote]

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