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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wait, why are people here saying that ED is not a boost at places like Brown, Penn, Columbia and Dartmouth?  The numbers are pretty clear that the admissions rates at all of these schools (including Duke, Hopkins, Chicago, Northwestern) are much higher in the ED round than RD because they all care about yield.  In fact, we know of several people who were deferred at these schools and ultimately got in during the RD round, and I'm sure that's because they ED'd and the schools care about yield. [/quote]

They are ignorant. Probably applied RD anyways.[/quote]

You are all missing something very important. When you filter out for athletes, and to some degree legacies and other hooks, the ED acceptance rate drops a lot, much closer to the RD acceptance rate. Committed athletes in particular are essentially required to apply ED. It's understood you will, because otherwise you're not truly "committed." At Brown, Penn and Columbia, this is a good percentage of students, and at WASP schools it's a fairly high percentage. So just looking at ED acceptance rate vs. RD acceptance rate doesn't tell you whether ED provides a boost or not. You have to take out the athletes and a handful of others to get the true rate. But, that rate isn't published anywhere. You can roughly figure it out by taking the number of athletes at the school, dividing by 4 and then taking that number out of the ED pool and recalculating the rate. But saying "The numbers are pretty clear that the admissions rates at all of these schools (including Duke, Hopkins, Chicago, Northwestern) are much higher in the ED round than RD because they all care about yield" is not accurate. You have to take out those who were pre-screened and told they'd get in if they apply ED. [/quote]

Correct, though each school has the same number of athletes (for D1 schools).  Penn is roughly 33% larger than Brown and 11% larger than Columbia, so athletes don’t make up as large a %age.  Penn is nearly 40% larger than Duke.

The slight difference in Duke is that a Power 4 conference is “always recruiting”.  They still accept the vast majority by ED (many are told to apply August 1 and are formally accepted like 2 weeks later), but they will always find a spot for a 5 star recruit that decides to switch their commitment.[/quote]

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