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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise? Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much. [/quote] International students are a major source of funding. They are almost all full pay (sometimes at higher rates than Americans) so they subsidize financial aid as well as their programs of study. If the government were paying for universities - as it could and arguably should, so that everyone could have a low-cost or free education - then maybe we could talk about it. But as it is, limiting international students would just reduce what the university can afford to do for Americans. [/quote] NP. At top universities - at least top 20, top 50, there are enough domestic full pay applicants to make up that funding.[/quote] Enough domestic full pay applicants without the university meaningfully lowering their admissions standards? Or are you just saying that if you let in anybody who can pay, you will find enough people who want to go? I'm sure there's a lot of variation in how admissions are done, but the schools I'm familiar with have a separate application for international students. Domestic students are not truly competing with the international pool for the same spots. [/quote] There are 100,000 high schools in the U.S. which means that there are 500,000 kids who graduate in the top 5 of their class. Surely there are enough full pay kids in the U.S. who also meet academic standards. [/quote] About 27,000 High Schools but we get your point and the answer is yes, there are.[/quote] Why do you think it should be Harvard's priority to educate US residents? We have many, many government universities to support our government needs. Harvard is a private institution. Why do you think it is obligated to serve our national interest? Do you expect Walmart to do the same? Is your employer required to prioritize US residents? And as for Harvard receiving federal grants, the US government does not invest in research out of the goodness of its heart, it does so because it is viewed as being in the national interest. Is some of it wasted? Is some of it used for projects I personally would not support? Yes of course, like pretty much all other areas of government investment and spending, so work to tighten that up. And maybe US government universities can learn from Harvard if spots at the school are viewed as so coveted. [/quote]
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