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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It sounds like what happened isn’t quite clear with these people. I’ll hold off on making any comments about the case.

I think everyone should take a few moments to learn about your rights when you’re crossing a border. They are not the same as when you’re in the US. If you are going to be traveling internationally, the easiest thing to do is to [b]bring a burner phone[/b]. [/quote]

I think that's a great idea but for most of us, who have smartphones with all our info, a burner phone won't replace a smartphone. I'm not aware of any smartphones that are as cheap as a burner cell phone. Does anyone have more info on this?[/quote]

I kept my old phone and turned it into a burner phone. It's an iphone. I got a second account with a different company. I use a card and refill it every few months. It doesn't have my name on it. I don't know how useful it would be to use when traveling though, since it doesn't have any of my contacts on it.  I got it to keep as an emergency phone. I had to use it recently when my phone died. But I'm thinking it might be a better phone to take with me when traveling. I'm still thinking about it. I'm leaving the country in a few weeks. [/quote]

Yeah no more traveling with you real phone....good times right MAGA you voted for this..... we know you all love your freedoms :roll: [/quote]

This isn't MAGA, though. CBP has always had this kind of power. It's just that they didn't exercise it as frequently when Trump wasn't in power. Probably because he wasn't breathing down their necks to get rid of the brown people. CBP does not need warrants and if you refuse, they just take your phone/ipad/laptop and image it anyway. CBP uses both Cellebrite and GreyKey on mobile devices.

Cellebrite can't crack passcodes on iOS running 17.5.1 or later. GreyKey can get partial access on the latest iOS. CBP has the $30,000 unlimited-use licenses of GreyKey. But anyway, once your phone is imaged by the software, that image is stored for something like 15-20 years by CBP.

The larger your phone is, the longer the imaging process will take. I just imaged a 512GB iPhone 14 with over 230,000 SMS. It was running for 31 hours. If they're going to take the phones and image them, might as well use burner phones with smaller data footprints to shorten the process and get out of there faster. There is no technical time limit on how long CBP can detain a US citizen. There is no law that says CBP only has 48 hours to hold you. Keep that in mind. That's why all these stories about US citizens being detained for 7-10 days are starting to trickle out.

The border is pretty much lawless. You have few rights. The only thing that CBP cannot do is refuse entry to a US citizen. They can take your phone/tablet/laptop and send you on your way or they can take your devices and hold you until they're done with them. It's their call. CBP also does not have to allow you to make any phone calls, like to a lawyer. [/quote]

Can CBP do any or all of the above with no suspicion of any illegal activity? 
Eg they just don’t like the way you look or talk.

Please post links to support your statements.
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DP, but here is an interesting article from the ACLU: - https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/can-border-agents-search-your-electronic

The article contains a link to CBP Directive 3340-049[/quote]

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