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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m convinced if schools went back to providing class rank to parents, there would be a lot less of such surprising results.  The colleges still calculate for admission purposes.[/quote]

Bigger issue is that there aren't enough top spots for top kids.  Especially this year with the expanded birth rate and the emphasis on taking FGLI and rural kids.  These colleges can't fill their classes with DMV high achievers. [/quote]

No the biggest issue is actually that it’s not that difficult for a very disciplined, reasonably bright teenager to be “high stats” with “leadership” (rote) ECs in the current environment

A basic smart kids who puts in the time, which admittedly is not a small amount of time, then you will come out with a super high inflated GPA, a whole bunch of APs with all fives, and above a 1500 on the SAT.  ***this profile is not special***

At all. Throw in some hard work on debate team and some hard work as the first chair violinist and you will earn regional awards. Again, not that big of a deal.

In my experience over the past eight years at the highest levels of DC privates, and expensive neighborhood publics, it’s the truly special people who deserve and get the top spots. They’re different they sparkle and they’re often genuine.

Johnny, Soon Jun and Maria “High Stats” are typically formulaic candidates who are confused when Princeton doesn’t come calling. [/quote]

Some Truth to all this- except there’s nothing wrong or inferior with “regular” or “formulaic” bright kids. They’re wonderful and original in their own way, but just not “standouts” in the Ivy sense. They’re just not going to the very top schools.  That’s where the disconnect is. [/quote]

To be fair--I'm not sure my son was 'standout' in Ivy sense on paper (pretty standard and not these crazy ec/research/nonprofit; flew under the radar)--but was accepted RD to one and WL at an HYP. Admission is such a crazy thing. I remember getting WL and going to my 3rd choice--when I was well above range for the first two choices. Who knows what it is they saw or needed?[/quote]

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