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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Note that a quick search reveals that the Harvard class of 1995 (parents of current applicants) was over 1/3 minorities, and it only went up from there. So for all the complaining about the downfall of affirmative action, these groups are increasingly benefitting from legacy admissions.[/quote]

Yes, this is the ironic part of trying to ban legacy now. It will actually make schools more diverse (in comparison to banning it) now that affirmative action is gone. These previous classes were created with affirmative action so many minorities are benefiting from legacy admission. I think its also unfortunate that states are banning it now that more URMs are actually benefiting from it.[/quote]

There is no evidence that legacy preferences will make schools more diverse. It's basically affirmative action for white people.

For Harvard: A 2019 paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research found that “Over 43 percent of white admits are ALDC” — athletes, legacies, “dean’s interest” and children of faculty and staff — “compared to less than 16 percent of admits for each of the other three major racial/ethnic groups” and that around three-quarters of them would not have been admitted otherwise.

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w26316/w26316.pdf[/quote]

Don't bring that thing again, it doesn't say what you think that it says.

David Card shredded Peter Arcidicano's work in that case and Harvard [b]WON[/b] the discrimination case (the battle) while they effectively (along with UNC and everyone else) the war because SFFA was able to use the case to get in front of the Supreme Court and make an Equal Protection Clause argument which was successful and their actual goal.[/quote]

Oh--so do share your better quality studies that show that legacy preferences benefit non-whites more than whites?
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I don't want to speak for another poster, but I don't think they are saying it benefits non-whites more than whites. I think they are saying that it does not only benefit whites - non-whites are increasingly receiving more and more benefit from it because for the last 40 years, there was a general trend of increasing numbers of minorities at top schools and now their kids are applying. If they don't want to take advantage of it, their loss.[/quote]

+1.  The majority of my Princeton classmates whose kids have been admitted in recent years (sample size of 7-8) are non-white. [/quote]

My spouse, siblings, and I are seeing the same among our Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Penn/Wharton classmates’ kids. I don’t think the poster who keeps saying legacy still primarily benefits white applicants went to any of these schools.[/quote]

Sadly, your self-reported HYPS/Penn degree was granted in vain if you don’t know the difference between your anecdote and rigorous data analysis.[/quote]

No one in my family thinks our diplomas make us better than anyone else, yet you covet them for your non-legacy DC. That’s what’s truly sad.[/quote]

I guess all you can do is throw out things you think are insults when you have no evidence behind your arguments.  And you may want to tell your psychiatrist about your ability to discern the educational pedigrees of random internet posters.  [b]They may want to up your meds[/b].[/quote]

I haven’t been launching insults, unlike this lovely statement from you. Speculating that you are not a HYPS or Penn graduate (who is likelier to know more about their school’s legacy preferences than a non-alum) is not an insult - that you think it is speaks volumes about your motivations for clinging onto your outdated claim that legacy preferences at these highly rejective schools primarily benefit white applicants in 2025.

OP, I apologize for my part in derailing your thread, and will cease to engage with this poster going forward. I think your DC should shoot their shot at whatever their first choice school happens to be. If it’s one of your Ivy alma maters, they will likely have a bit of a boost regardless of which race they are.[/quote]

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