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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There would be way fewer accidents in DC if pedestrians did not act like they had a death wish. People seem to step off the curb without even looking around them to see what else is going on. Walkers in suburbs do not generally act like this. Definitely it’s not how I taught my kids to cross a street.

Until there are changes in pedestrian practices you won’t see a meaningful drop in those death stats. [/quote]

Pedestrian deaths have nearly doubled since 2009. That increase is not because of pedestrian behavior. Its because of changes in the vehicle mix and driver behavior.[/quote]

And they've stayed the same since 2007.  Funny how easy it is to cherrypick data.  Pedestrian deaths have stayed in range for a long time.

But what is really funny is that pedestrian deaths increased 40% since traffic "calming" was instituted in earnest.  Congestion makes things worse not better.[/quote]

The numbers are up nationally during the 2007-2023 period as well. Going from roughly 4,700 to 7,500. Those increases can't be attributed to anything DC specific. Most likely DC trends are part of the larger national trends. Those trends being larger/taller vehicles, more aggressive driving and distracting screens everywhere. The lower speed limits, prohibitions of right on red and other changes are attempts to get back to the same harm budget of a decade ago. If that leads to slower traffic, drivers can really only blame themselves. [/quote]

If that leads to slower traffic, drivers can be grateful, because it's safer for drivers and passengers too.[/quote]

That's not what the data shows.  Overall deaths increased substantially between 2022 and 2023.  It just so happens that 2022 was the start of this insane experiment.  Ironically, deaths attributed to speeding have stayed within range.

To put it simply, overall deaths have increased while speed related deaths have stayed the same.  Great job traffic calmers, you've made things worse.[/quote]

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