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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand how most Americans don't go to college. I really don't. This country has so much opportunity if you are someone who values education and strives for a better life. I think of the fact that public schools encourage reading, that may sound trivial but public schools in the Arab world absolutely do not. And libraries are not commonly used. Just by reading a low income or low middle class child can develop skills to have a better understanding of the world. And through scholarships can get into good schools. Again with the Arab world comparison because that is what I know best--do you think a bright low income kid over there can get into a good school? Very very hard.

Americans don't realize how good they have it. And the American culture of contempt toward educated elites is part of the reason someone like Trump was able to win. I remember reading a Vance interview where he said McDonald's should hire young American men through better wages and I just rolled my eyes. Yeah sure, these hordes of young unemployed white men are dying to work at McDonald's if only they could get 15 bucks an hour. No, they want high-paying jobs being a foreman at a factory or something. And they are angry at their lawyer cousin who was smart to get out of Oklahoma or whatever and make a good life for themselves in DC or NY.[/quote]

Because they are not getting low paying McDonald's jobs. They are making $100K+/year without college.

Also, even a state school will run you $120K for 4 years and most poeple can't afford that, actually most can't afford to not work for 4 years. [/quote]

Student loans are available. That is not something easily accessible to young people in other parts of the world. If they are making that kind of money without college then why are they so angry? [/quote]

They are angry because people like you think they only job they can get is McDonalds and if you look at them your body language shows them you assume they are trash and racist. [/quote]

No, I don't think they are racist. I think what's contemptible about them is that they are anti-education, and that's what makes them trash. I think they have opportunities unfathomable to most young men around the world and are angry because high paying blue collar jobs are harder to come by than 30 years ago. [/quote]

Again the assumptions you make about people that go to college is elitist and incorrect.

They are not "anti-education" but they have decided they would rather be educated in a different way. [b]Someone who is a farmer can teach you more about the economy, climate change, pesticides in food, supply chain, etc than any college graduate. [/b]

You actually don't understand why they are mad. [/quote]

That's not right. If they aren't educated, they only have one perspective--the farming perspective. You don't need to have gone to a top-10 university, but the point of higher education is to broader your perspective, to learn how other people do things, to learn how things have been done historically, how they have changed, and why, to learn how different forces (political, religious, historical, cultural, natural) have brought us to where we are today. It's hard to get that perspective if you stay in one place, with the same group of people, doing the same kinds of things your whole life. Even harder if you even refuse to consider certain points of view or examine your own assumptions and biases. [/quote]

You think college kids these days are spending a lot of time examining their assumptions and biases? What a joke. It’s a nice dream but not reality at all. They shout down and refuse to listen to other points of view that may challenge them in any way.[/quote]

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