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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was just thinking about the same question today. At our very competitive FCPS, getting into William and Mary is very, very difficult. There is nowhere near a 40% acceptance rate. I am not sure why the acceptance rate appears so high, because coming from FCPS, I imagine it’s in the 20% range or lower. And only the top kids are applying. [/quote]

It's more self selective. People who do not have the academic qualifications to get into W&M tend not to apply unlike other a lot of other schools[/quote]

This. You can tell the cuts offs for WM (and UVA) in Naviance, and it is pretty clear what it takes to be admitted.  (VT is a bit different because it doesn’t break out engineering and CS, which are very high stat, from other schools that are not.  UVA has a much smaller engineering school). And WM has an optional extra essay that admissions clearly said in my kid’s info session is not optional. And they push demonstrated interest and consider it strongly, which means interviewing, visiting before being admitted, etc.  You can a pretty clear idea of whether you will get in from NOVA just by looking at Naviance and checking demonstrated interest boxes.  My kid had white/Asian female friends sitting in the 4.1-4.2 range who didn’t even bother to apply to WM because they knew they weren’t getting in and/or they didn’t want it enough to jump through the extra essay, interview, campus visit hoops.

The clear cut off, plus the fact it is the smallest T-whatever public university in the US and attracts a certain type of kid makes its applicant pool pretty self selecting.

[b]Oddly, the same not really there on stats/ not applying to WM kids will often apply to UVA. Not sure why. [/b]I’m sure not having the extra essay helps.  As does the fact UVA is more of a traditional flagship and WM attracts kids who want more undergrad focus, small classes, etc. and less big sports / highly visible Greek life. [/quote]

But, statistically, it's more difficult to get into UVA.[/quote]

UVA's admissions rate is lower, but the stats are pretty much even.

75th/50th/25th for SAT is 1520/1470/1410 for UVA vs 1530/1470/1400 for W&M.  GPA is 4.5/4.4/4.2 for UVA vs 4.53/4.35/4.18 for W&M.

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
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Actually UVA's admissions rates are much lower at 16% - 18% (12% for OOS; 24% for in-state) out of 60,000 apps. W&M's acceptance rate is 34%, same for in-state and OOS,out of 17,000 apps.[/quote]

The enrolled stats are the same.[/quote]

but you hide the fact that it's significantly more difficult to get in UVA, stats or no stats.[/quote]

But for whom is it more difficult? For everyone?? I’m not sure the numbers bear that out.
It seems neither school is a good bet for Joe Average.
But a student with high stats seems to have a better shot of getting into W&M than at UVA.[/quote]

DP. That's nonsensical. 18% of of 60,000 apps (12% for OOS)  versus 34% out of 17,000 apps ? Of course it's more difficult. Like more than twice as difficult.[/quote]

If UVA was more than twice as difficult, the enrolled stats would be much, much higher.  They are certainly not.

Duke and Northeastern have the same acceptance rate.  Is Northeastern as selective as Duke?  No.  How do we know that?  The enrolled student stats are higher for Duke.  You have to factor enrolled stats.
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