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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One of my coworkers' wife, who is an AO at an Ivy, said this to me at the company last year Christmas party:

How to get rejected by Ivies:
- I have 4.0 GPA with 12 AP classes
AO response:  There are 1500 Asian kids with the same achievement

- I am the violin first chair in the orchestra,
AO response:  There are 1200 Asian kids with the same achievement

- I score 1570+ on the SAT
AO response:  There are 1500 Asian kids with the same score as you

- I am an accomplished pianist
AO response:  There are 800 Asian kids that can play piano just as good as you, if not better

- I found a nonprofit to help the homeless:
AO response:  There are 500 Asian kids that also do the same thing like you

How to get accepted by Ivies:

- I can play guitar like Slash of Guns 'n Roses. I can show you how I play "November Rain" or "sweet child o mine"
AO response:  Now that's unique.  We would love to have you at the university

- I have a TikTok influencer with over 2M followers 
AO response:  Amazing.  You know how to monetize your influence.  It means more exposure for the university.  Welcome to the university.

You get the idea...[/quote]

Discussed by a former Vanderbilt AO here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/v6bdz7/the_type_of_ecs_i_wish_i_saw_more_of_as_a/

"There are ECs that are impressive and there are ECs that are memorable – and they aren’t always the same.

I’ve reviewed countless applications from debate champions, but only one from a girl who plays drums in a Led Zeppelin cover band. I’ve seen a lot of varsity tennis, but only one student who was a Pokémon card game champion.

Heck, when I applied to college, I focused my activities section on volunteering, debate, and school clubs while completely failing to mention fronting a sloppy punk rock band where we wrote songs, released an album, and played a bunch of shows.

I want you to broaden the scope of what you value as extracurricular engagement."[/quote]

this guy seems extremely immature.[/quote]

College admissions is a scam. There is no clear cut way that works for Ivy League. Think about who profits from this crazy athletics madness that we all buy into? Travel sports, competitions etc.. and from such a young age too. Kids miss out on their childhood and parents miss out on the time with their kids and family.. all in the name of college admissions.. 
lets face it, we are all sheep and don’t want to be left behind in this race to nowhere.[/quote]

Don't buy in. One of my kids refused the athletics madness (sports competitions). 
Did great in the app process (many T20 admits). Had a very unique distinctive hobby though that took up a LOT of time.

Ask your kid what they like. Are they curious? Do they spend time watching videos on YouTube? Podcast?
Develop and nature those interests. 
[/quote]

Seconding this! Don’t buy in! Five T15 admits unhooked. All the top stats and top scores in the hardest classes, but also had unique ECs and hobbies. [b]Concertmaster was on the list too [/b]but not one of the top three  activities/ECs based on impact and deep involvement [/quote]

Really? What orchestra?[/quote]

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