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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here.  I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do.  Is that right?  We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools.  Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc.  I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us.  I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc.  I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively.  Just talking about tuition alone.  Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us.  I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us.  But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.[/quote]

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school. [/quote]

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC.  I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.[/quote]

[b]SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery Count[/b]y with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.[/quote]
You're wrong. 
In fact,  you're wrong on all the numbers you posted. [/quote]
NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact. 
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ). 
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong? [/quote]
You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from  MoCo?[/quote]
[b]Do you want to show me where it says otherwise[/b]? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise. [/quote]
So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it[/quote]
Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates. [/quote]

According to the Maryland Department of Education there are close to 10,000 Montgomery County students in grades 9-12 who go to non-public schools. That’s equivalent to six full high schools the County would have to add if there were on private schools.

Those 10,000 kids have to go somewhere and St Johns is a popular destination. If just 1 in 20 (5%) go to St Johns, that’s a very large percentage of the student body. And other than Good Counsel, in far away Olney, where else do these kids go? Landon, St Andrew’s, Holy Cross, etc. are tiny by comparison.

So, 50%-60% of the SJC students coming from nearby Montgomery County is a pretty good estimate. And many of these students come from areas served by the best of the MoCo high schools. Just look at the archived May issues of Parish Times and you can see just how many kids from the parish schools in Bethesda, Potomac, Rockville and Kensington list St Johns as their high school destination.

Instead of worrying about who goes to SJC, the public school boosters ought to be figuring out why 10,000 families are willing to pay when a free public school is available to them.

A very experienced teacher, who had moved from MoCo schools to a private school once told me, “It became impossible for me to tell a disruptive student to sit down and shut up. I knew to do so was to put my career at risk.”
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