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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At that age, no. But sadly we found that eventually enough leave for club/travel that the only families left in rec are either very flaky or their kids are unathletic or brand new to the sport. That’s no fun for a kid who takes it seriously and has played for 4 years. By middle school we caved because it was killing her love of the sport to play with kids who did not care.[/quote]

+1. This is a very common scenario. [/quote]
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I am about to dive into club softball because I cannot take another year of my kid carrying the team and her dealing with disappointment as kids just do bare minimum or not even try.[/quote]

The dozens of posts about having kids not caring or not trying is bull.    I’m sure there are kids there that don’t to be there and their mothers forced them.  But the kids who like sports but are new to the game or are having difficulty catching on are trying their hardest.   And I doubt your kid is carrying a whole team. I’ve seen enough of these rec leagues to understand that there are usually a handful of kids that have it down, [b]kids who struggle, kids who are timid and too scared to do anything but hang around the edges. [/b]  [/quote]

No offense to these kids, but by middle school most decent players want to move on from this. In 12u rec, half of our softball team still couldn’t field an easy grounder and make a competent throw to first base. They still didn’t know when were obvious moments to steal, or the difference between a force or tag play. This is really really basic stuff. And this is why people leave. Not because we have our eye on college scholarships. It’s not that deep.[/quote]

Wow, your experience is so utterly different from ours in 12U rec. Makes me sad. But I've seen it at other age levels due honestly to girls heading to travel who are just getting utterly stomped being there. So I know how it happens.[/quote]

PP you are quoting. Not getting "stomped" in travel. [b]C level travel is effectively the same as all stars/rec plus[/b], but with a longer season. The playing level is good without being cutthroat. And our rec league didn't have "rec plus" anyway. [/quote]

Except when the end of the season comes, and some of those RAS teams enter a C tournament....and it usually goes very poorly.  [/quote]

I'm not really sure what you are talking about. All Stars is in the summer where we are. Those teams are not playing in fall C tournaments. Not sure where you are getting your information, but you don't seem to have much first hand experience. [/quote]

Not PP, but I have it on good authority that in Virginia USSSA there is no rec/all-star division offered at tournaments so any house+ (like Vienna Raiders) or summer all-stars who want to play a tournament either have to go out-of-state or play C. You might find Virginia teams registered on USSSA as rec/all-star but you won't find RAS divisions at any tournament in VA.

Look PP, I know you and your kid love C level softball. That's great. Enjoy![/quote]

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