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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UCs are not worth it for undergraduate studies. With tens of thousands of students, you are a number to the administration and faculty. You will not get access to research and you will be taught by research assistants not professors. If this is the experience you want for your kid, and willing to pay $70,000 a year, then fine and accept the situation. [/quote]

Not just here in the U.S. but globally, the UC system is perceived as the gold standard for U.S. public education, and by a large margin. After UCLA and Cal, the drop-off to Michigan, Texas, Washington, UNC, UVA, and Florida is significant (especially globally). Everything else you said is reflective of the experience for a very small group of students who failed to do their part in pursuing the ample opportunities available to everyone in the UCs.[/quote]

I take issue with this. The UC schools have an excellent reputation for post graduate research.  Very few of the hundreds of thousands of students attending a UC have anything to do with this research.[/quote]

PP here. I have EXTENSIVE personal experience over the past 25 years at one of the top UC campuses, with dual appointment on the clinical side. Across multiple labs, I have personally supervised junior faculty, postdocs, project scientists, grad students, and yes, dozens of undergrad students.

Most of my colleagues staff their labs the same way, with undergrad students forming an essential layer of research assistance. Lab manager, no. But not a year has passed where I didn’t have at least 4-5 undergrad students working in my labels throughout the year.

You appear to have limited knowledge of the subject matter.[/quote]

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