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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think a lot of people get it. Even before the Harvard case more and more colleges were already getting away from using race as an explicit factor, but were trending towards “socioeconomic” factors in college admissions.  Some state schools like UC and U. Mich were doing it because of states’ ban on AA.  But there is no ban on using “socioeconomic” factors.

A friend of mine is a law firm partner in an upscale area of San Diego.  His own family was first generation immigrants from Eastern Europe and he grew up in a not-so-good area of NYC.  He’s the typical American Dream success story—pulled himself up from bootstraps, worked hard and got an education.  But he’s the one who told me that UC looks at applicant’s zip code and practices economic and geographic discrimination, even for in-state.  Why should children be punished because their parents are hard working, successful, and live in a nice neighborhood?[/quote]

The more competitive UC schools like UCLA and Berkeley became more asian.
The overall percentage of blacks in the UC system did not really move much after California banned affirmative action.  Half the black kids that would have gotten into Berkeley ended up at UCLA, the UCLA black kids ended up at UCSD and so on down the line and overall, the reduction at the UC/calstate level was a statistical insignificant.
This remains true to this day.
There is no real good proxy for race besides race.
You look for poverty and you pick up a bunch of immigrants.
You look for zip code and you will still find immigrants.
What really helped was going test optional and then test blind.
Once you remove objective indicators of merit, you have wide latitude to pick the students you want.
When they got rid of testing, things moved.[/quote]
 And even then it’s a fail. TO/Test blind did nothing for black Americans who are descendants of slaves, nor are first gen low income. It just boosts the numbers of rich private pre school students or students who are poor but from privileged education backgrounds. One of my biggest gripes with AA is it doesn’t help the people it’s designed for, but the Nigerian immigrant kids of surgeons and wealth managers. [/quote]

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