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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley 
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[b]They are great if you are In-state. [/b] But definately not worth OOS prices.  If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.

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Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.[/quote]

Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …[/quote]

Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.[/quote]

https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!![/quote]

BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!
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Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?[/quote]

Just curious what you are claiming is not true.  Which of the following do you dispute

--UCLA regularly puts three freshmen and/or sophomores in dorm rooms built as doubles

-- There is an even greater housing shortage at the other UCs

-- The list of impacted majors at most UCs include popular majors like computer science, engineering, psychology. . . .

--It is very difficult to transfer into an impacted major

--There are some classes in certain majors with other 1000 students enrolled, at least at Berkeley

--It can be difficult to register for required classes[/quote]

What about incoming freshman with 50+ units already banked via AP testing and matriculating into a major that’s not impacted? Do they have a chance of graduating in less than six years?[/quote]

I’d like to know this as well. [/quote]
Many if not nearly all students come in with a ton of credits.  Don't assume that it's that special.

Go take a tour.  Ask students about advising, including whether they were assigned a faculty advisor, how often they meet with their advisor, and what input their advisor has provided.  Ask students about class registration and how many students graduate in 4 years.  Ask about class sizes and quality and if they get feedback on written work product.  Go sit in a lecture see who is paying attention or if the lecture is full.  See if anyone asks questions.  Ask if exams are multiple choice. Ask if cheating is a problem.  Ask if there are enough materials for labs or if they run out. Ask about housing.  Ask about what students do on weekends. Ask about the political parties and special interest groups in student government.  Ask.  Ask. Ask.[/quote]

Holy smokes. These are good.
I’m worried the answers will disappoint me at most flagships.
The best answers would be from SLACs right (other than the weekend question)….[/quote]

Any private, especially those with less than 10,000 students, are unlikely to have these particular issues.[/quote]

Right. And there almost invariably a direct correlation to cost. You want to spend $320 - $400K to send your kid to a private with the various associated trade-offs, that’s great. If others make other decisions based on the trade-offs that matter to them, also great.

It’s just that graduating from Macalester or Davidson or Occidental, by way of example, instead of Michigan or Berkeley or UCLA is going to very likely cost you in the long run much more than the higher cost of attendance on the front end.[/quote]

The oos cost of the UC’s isn’t that far off from a private college.  You do realize most of us actually live in the DC area, and not California.[/quote]
Well, they are still cheaper than UVA or UMichigan. But the larger point applies to all: go private if oos.[/quote]

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