Reply to 27 should be considered obese BMI now?!

Forum Index » Diet, Nutrition & Weight Loss

Reply to "27 should be considered obese BMI now?!"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Normal body types:

[img]https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lZhiwUQnBZM/VKA4wedRRLI/AAAAAAABLqM/5kBeXHAlYAg/s1600/1970s%2BAmerica%2B(10).jpg[/img]

[img]https://media.mlive.com/citizenpatriot/photo/2015/08/05/laidlaw-1jpg-421aa3a234380fec.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/c9/c0/68c9c04ead658cbebdbf94b145a3e248.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c9/1a/af/c91aaf111fc93be39127a3d565cc577d.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/ea/8e/28ea8e7edbcb72159512a8fb9a07e045.jpg[/img]

That's how Americans used to look when they were healthier. Now we try to reframe the narrative after everyone has become obese blobs.  [/quote]

I looked like that in my 20’s was called olive oil and wore size 8.

You aren’t making the point you think you are making.

My son’s skinny AF, his BMI is 25, he wears XL.
[/quote]

Suuuuure.. I'm sure your son has the body of a Greek god to throw off BMI.

Every mom of a fat kid never admits they're overweight but rather 'big boned'.  [/quote]

He’s a D1 athlete so.., your a sad human, eat some carbs it helps your brain work.[/quote]

Imagine being too stupid to understand basic statistics.

Ahhhhhh....DCUM. Where everyone has a BMI of 25+ yet no one is obese because they must be one or two sigmas away from the average body in terms of muscle mass.

Ha, yeah right.  I'm sure you're all hulking, fit beasts built like tanks with clear muscle definition to the point of striations and massive, solid bulk.

You are all delusional.  [/quote]

The delusion in these posts is mostly coming from middle aged women. That group at 25+ BMI is virtually always (like 95%, minimum) on the wrong side of body fat to muscle ratio. That’s just the reality of our species. One that’s easily objectively measured.

But when you have an objective measure where people don’t like the results, the answer is always to attack the measurement. [/quote]

Again, research shows BMI 26-27 is the healthiest. Sorry you don’t like that. [/quote]

DP. But what research says that?  I find that very hard to believe. I don’t pay any attention to my bmi, but I’m well aware that 25+ extra pounds is hard on any body. [/quote]

read the thread - it has been posted repeatedly. an extra 25lbs on older women is much healthier than being skinny. skinny and older is not a healthy combo. [/quote]

You mean the shape.com article that explicitly stated that the results were due to medical advances, not that being 25 pounds overweight is somehow now “healthy”?  Seems like someone struggled to read the article, and it was me. [/quote]

If any of these people read the actual study and not simply the blurb in Shape (seriously?) they would see that nowhere does the study say a BMI of 27 is the “healthiest” but that is correlated with lower all-cause mortality.  Those are not necessarily the same.

Furthermore, when looking at the oldest cohort of participants (in which 78% of participants had died by the time of publication),[b] the BMI associated with lowest all-cause mortality was actually 23.7[/b].  The newest cohort (only 6% of participants had died at the time of publication) is the one in which see BMI 27 correlated with lowest all-cause mortality.  Make of that what you will.

And finally read this little gem from the publication itself:

“Diabetes, hypertension, and history of cardiovascular disease were deliberately excluded as potential confounders as they would act in the causal pathway between obesity and mortality.15,19-22 That is, potential confounders were selected a priori based on what has been shown to be associated with mortality and obesity, but variables thought to lie in the causal pathway between obesity and mortality were excluded. ”

I don’t know that any reasonable person thinks excess fat directly causes poor health.  I think we’re all aware that it contributes to metabolic syndrome.  Unless I am reading this wrong, it would appear that the study *excludes* those people who are already in poor health from many of the issues that obesity is known to have a direct correlation.  So what exactly are these results supposed to mean?[/quote]

Oh wow, that's my exact BMI now, 23.7

I lost weight last year. I'm at what I thought was my goal weight but actually I do still have some pounds to loose (not trying to be super thin at all, just fit).
I do lift weights and eat healthy now.
However, due to the paper towel effect (see the thread about that) perhaps I only need to lose 4-5 more pounds, as each pound lost at this weight should have a much bigger effect on the body. So I just don't know, I guess I will see how it goes as I lose the next pound or two etc.
If anyone has any first hand knowledge of pounds lost at a healthy BMI versus overweight BMI let me know for inspiration, thanks.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics