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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course BC belongs on the list, along with the others because they're all essentially the next in line after excluding the top schools:
"Our analysis excluded schools with fewer than 4,000 students, the eight old Ivies and four Ivy-plus schools—Stanford, MIT, Duke and Chicago."
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I don’t get why you’d exclude Duke and Chicago but not northwestern which is as hard to get into as those.  I think it’s harder to get into that Chicago now, and for Duke it probably depends on the year and the student.[/quote]

Isn't it more so that Stanford, Chicago, and Duke are considered the most "prestigious" roughly speaking schools in their respective regions? Stanford - West; Chicago - Midwest; and Duke - South. In terms of achieving regional parity, I think the term “Ivy Plus” is partly meant to balance out the Ivy League, all 8 school being in the Northeast, with the most prestigious/elite schools in regions outside the Northeast that dominate their respective regions. Which is why schools like Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, and Vanderbilt, which although roughly the equivalent to the lower Ivy League schools, aren’t necessarily considered the most elite in their region. [/quote]

If we're talking Ivy Plus, it probably makes the most sense to include Northwestern and Johns Hopkins, at least. I can see why a school like Vanderbilt or Rice might be left off, but the former two have just about all the attributes one might assign to a true Ivy peer - a long history of rigorous academic standards, national prestige, big endowments, research prowess, Ivy-equivalent (or in some cases, superior to Ivies) graduate or professional schools.[/quote]

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