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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can see people are upset because they have an investment, whether emotional, financial, or ideological, with the current modus operandi at most elite colleges so they are bitterly resistant to the changing realities surrounding elite higher education these days despite that Silver cites data showing significant shift in public perspectives on higher education and elite higher education.

This is what people thought of a freshly minted Harvard graduate in 1994: highly accomplished and brainy nerd.

This is what many people now think when they encounter a freshly minted Harvard graduate in 2024: Either a legacy admit from an extremely connected and / or wealthy family (nepotism) or a mollycoddled diversity admit benefiting from a system that rewards identity over merit. And both will bring the same increasingly annoying social justice warrior outlook largely divorced from reality.

Silver is not a right wing MAGAtard, he is a Democrat and sold his polling business to the NYT. But like a lot of very intelligent nerds, Silver doesn't shy away from frankness.

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You are an idiot. [b]The minority students at Harvard etc have near perfect test scores and/or grades[/b]. The average student now is miles ahead of the 1994 student in terms of academic indicators. Same with the wealthy kids; at the top schools everyone has the scores that's why they add other factors to select.[/quote]
dp... that is not what the Harvard lawsuit showed.

I'm not saying there aren't high scoring URM, but as a whole, they are not a group that scores that high.[/quote]

I am an expert on the Harvard case. Show me where it says that in the data. Half of the black applicants to Harvard that were REJECTED have academic indicators that would have been in the 90th percentile of ACCEPTED APPLICANTS OF ALL RACES.

Harvard has like 4 times as many applicants with perfect scores or grades than they have slots. The black students who are admitted to Harvard have extremely strong scores just as many of the black students who are rejected. The problem is that people like you want Harvard to only pick the perfect score students, but there are not enough seats for that and Harvard doesn’t think that perfect score automatically merits admission anyway.[/quote]
+1000
Harvard recognizes that there is more to a student as a whole than just their SAT scores.  they recognize that 1480 vs 1550 is not really that different.  They want to look at the resume and choose the real leaders not just the kids who ticked the boxes thru HS because their College counselor told them to do this.  [/quote]

+ another 1000 1450 is still top 1%, and 1360 is still top 5%. Way over 99% of jobs can be done well without being a genius.[/quote]

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