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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did you read it?  Some said they could not speak and they blacked out and therefore could not withdraw consent even if they had given it!  Scary that this is your reaction is blaming the girls, and not concern for them and the horribly abusive culture we adults have created.[/quote]

I am not blaming them but making it clear it is a problem for both sexes.  OP was making it about boys only when both boys and girls need to be aware and parents need to speak to both.

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Seriously,  DID YOU READ IT?!?

Some of these girls have been seriously harmed or even died!![/quote]

So?   It appears to be consensual. Blaming this on boys is sexist.  And wrong. [/quote]

Is it truly consensual as in something that the girls would want for themselves even if they had never been exposed to porn? Or porn-addled guys asking for it (or just doing it without asking) and then she comes to see it as an expectation/a normal thing?

I’m not blaming it on boys BTW, I’m blaming it on porn. [/quote]

Motorcycling is more dangerous than erotic asphyxiation.

Some things that feel good are also dangerous.

It's not brainwashing, it's human nature.

Obviously consent is essential and people should be careful. [/quote]

Just stop.  It’s absolutely brainwashing.  The average woman does not want to be choked, EVER.  I’d like to think the average man also has no intrinsic desire to choke women.[/quote]
And that’s exactly why I think this is the current pearl-clutcher worry of the moment. Our kids are smarter, more compassionate, kinder, more sexually conservative,  than we think they are, and what they statistically should be. [/quote]

Kids are actually more extreme. There are fewer kids having normal sex, and more kids into kinks or no sex at all.[/quote]

This. I teach 18-22 year olds about communication in relationships and many of them have said piv sex is out. [/quote]

I teach middle school and they talk about and seem to be doing oral sex like kissing. It’s crazy. [/quote]
You mean girls are doing oral like kissing. That’s their currency. Boys are not equally reciprocating.[/quote]

Ugh. The orgasm differential and the fact that the article has noticed that in a hetero hook-up, sexual pleasure and gratification (e.g., oral) tends to center on the male. And discomfort or pain (e.g., choking) tends to center on the female.

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If it's so dissatisfying why do women keep going back for more? They could just say "enough" and demand better.[/quote]

Are you also the same person saying that girls are trying to engage and how in the world could boys say no to that. How is this not a double standard. How come boys can’t say no. How come boys can’t choose not to engage.

Fact is boys date rape drug girls, they assault them, they choke them,  they rape them, they talk the girls into doing things and they demean them, and later they slut shame them.

Girls do not spike guy drinks, they don’t assault and rape them, they don’t choke them, they don’t slur shame them after.

But ah yes, girls should just say no. But what if they do. What if they are at a party and say no, but the guy doesn’t listen and chokes and penetrates her anyway. 99% of boy moms are gonna say, well it’s her fault. She shouldn’t be in a position that the boy is alone and excited with her. This is why 70% of high school and college assaults go unreported. The shaming.

But yes, girls should just say no and the poor boys are being pressured by girls. How can they not say no?!? LOL
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