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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think they are equal in reputation so would let student pick which they prefer, assuming cost is similar.[/quote]

They absolutely aren't[/quote]
You're right. UMD is ranked higher (46) than WM (53). 
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities[/quote]

And yet, according to Parchment, when applicants are admitted to both, they choose W&M over UMD-CP 70% to 30%.  Revealed preference tells us a lot more than pseudoscience rankings.   [/quote]
preferences can be about many things, and not necessarily about academics.[/quote]

Yes, but what makes a university “better” than another if not the revealed preference of a population who can choose between them?  What you think is important is NOT the only criteria in evaluating a university.  And there is no way accurate way to measure the “academics” between the two in a way that you can say flatly one is stronger than the other.  Sure UMD is bigger and offers things that W&M does not, but what W&M does do I think it does quite well.[/quote]
Certainly, it depends on when and who took the survey, and what their majors are.

Harvard is the most popular on parchment, [b]but a serious student would choose UMD over Harvard for CS.
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Parchment also shows Michigan State as top 20 most popular.  You think an Econ major would choose Mich State over W&M?

Also, the stats on parchment for the colleges are almost 10 years old.  A lot has changed in 10 years.[/quote]

You are utterly fooling yourself.[/quote]
People more concerned with prestige will choose Harvard CS.  [b]Serious CS students wouldn't choose Harvard for CS over UMD CS.[/b][/quote]

That's your assertion.  It fits your narrative.  My assertion is that the vast majority would choose Harvard for CS over UMD CS if they actually had that choice.

BTW, for high paying jobs in software, WSJ has Harvard #3 overall after Stanford and Princeton.  UMD is not in the top 20 among public universities.

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How many of those Harvard grads have family connections to get those high paying jobs vs UMD grads?

How many of them got into Harvard because of legacy or their wealth?
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UMD isn't even appearing on the top 20 for salary on any if the WSJ lists except for finance, where they are 17 among publics.  Putting aside top privates, which generally have significantly higher salaries, why isn't UMD ranking with these publics?  Are you going to argue those publics have wealthy and connected students?[/quote]
CS is a big field.  Not all CS jobs lead to $150K starting salary, especially when you come from a public school.  Many of those grads don't have the family connections to get those cushy high paying jobs.

CS grads at UMD outnumber Finance grads.  So, the average pay of a CS grad isn't going to be high since the numbers include grads who don't get those cushy high paying jobs.

Also, I can't see the WSJ list, so I don't know what methodology they are using.  But, obviously, graduates with the family connections will make more than those who don't, no matter their major. That is something that will skew any list.[/quote]

UMD isn’t even making the salary list for public colleges.  That includes schools like Oklahoma and Indiana.

Stop with the BS family connections argument.[/quote]

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