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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially.  I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.  [/quote]

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.[/quote]

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality.  Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs.  I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but  it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy.  Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.[/quote]

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest:  how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young?  If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.[/quote]

HR data show men in the exact same position with the same job duties make more money.

You are right more women go to college than men but more men are going to college than before… and college faculty are more likely to be men and student loan debt for women is higher, and men still make more money.

This has made it easier for men to get into certain colleges.

Men are less likely to go to community college than women.

The reason is men have options for high paying jobs that don’t require a degree and women don’t.[/quote]

None of this is accurate.  No surprise PP failed to support any of it.[/quote]

[i]Employed mothers earn about the same as similarly educated women without children at home; both groups earn less than fathers.

Although gains in education have raised the average earnings of women and have narrowed the gender pay gap overall, college-educated women are no closer to wage parity with their male counterparts than other women. In 2022, women with at least a bachelor’s degree earned 79% as much as men who were college graduates, and women who were high school graduates earned 81% as much as men with the same level of education. This underscores the challenges faced by women of all education levels in closing the pay gap.

Notably, the gender wage gap has closed more among workers [b]without [/b]a four-year college degree than among those who do have a bachelor’s degree or more education.[/i]

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/01/gender-pay-gap-facts/[/quote]

How very deceitful of you to leave out this part of the Pew research:

“ In fact, in 22 of 250 U.S. metropolitan areas, women under the age of 30 earn the same amount as or more than their male counterparts, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of Census Bureau data.”

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/03/28/young-women-are-out-earning-young-men-in-several-u-s-cities/[/quote]

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