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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
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The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.[/quote]

The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...

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The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.

I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said. [/quote]
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law.  Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism.  The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America.  The next Pope may very well be a black African.  
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.[/quote]

Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment.  Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.[/quote]
I have one vote just like you do.  My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.  [/quote]

I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF.  God told me to do it and was right.[/quote]

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You chose to go against the teachings of the church.  You have the right to make that choice, but that choice makes you NOT a practicing Catholic.[/quote]

I turn down the greatest gift god has given me and THAT makes me a Catholic.  I don't think so.[/quote]

If you believe god has given you that gift, that is your option. Others believe in science.[/quote]

I believe in science.   My argument is that for every religious  person telling me that IVF is forbidden by this or that church [b]there is a flip argument that IVF is encouraged by this or that church.
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In my opinion reproductive decisions are private and personal.   No one has to treat infertility with IVF but no one should be denied that treatment if they believe that it is the right decision for their situation.[/quote]

"This chruch or that church" perhaps, but NOT the Catholic church.   [/quote]

DP.  I’m Christian (United Methodist).  Due to PCOS, I went through IVF to conceive my children.  My pastor was quite supportive.  Why, exactly, do you feel that the Catholic Church should have any say at all over my body?  Or the bodies of Jewish women, or atheist women, or Mormon women, or anyone else?  You believe IVF/abortion/whatever is morally wrong?  Don’t do it.
Get your version of morality and Christianity off of my body, and out of politics.  We have separation of church and state for a reason.[/quote]

I fail to understand why these cases aren't challenged on separation of church and state. This is a purely religious doctrine dominating other faiths and pushed down on everyone by the state.[/quote]

Because the judges deciding these cases, by design, are radical Christian fundamentalists.[/quote]

This.  Staunch Catholics and Evangelicals.[/quote]

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