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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Gosh, this post has really spiraled.  OP, whomever is responding is a jerk.  But, man, also stop baiting them!  As to your initial question, I do not think your situation is unusual.  Many, many people already have embryos frozen before they find their surrogate.  This is common practice.  You can use an agency if you'd like to go that route, or you can go independently, but then you'll have to find your surrogate.  There are a lot of matching groups on Facebook.  A lot of surrogates want to match with someone who has 2-3+ frozen embryos so that they are using their time towards a successful outcome, so that could be a limiter for your matching.  [/quote]

Thanks for an actual response.  I think people misunderstood in this thread about me say our situation was "somewhat unique."  I meant that we only have one embryo, and we never intended to use a surrogate.  My wife's health problems have just progressed to where it is no longer possible for her to transfer/carry.  So this is a one shot thing, where we aren't doing any more IVF, etc. regardless of the outcome, which I think has to be at least somewhat unique.  In any event, agree that we can obviously go with an agency, but that is why I was asking for any other creative ideas given that we only have one embryo and won't be trying again.

As for the trolls, I enjoy feeding them, because eventually they get so frustrated that they start revealing their true selves, which is very ugly.  I mean, you saw some of the posts -- just disgusting people, surrogacy views aside.  I think it is productive because it can actually shift people away from their side of the aisle when they see how they act.  It is one thing to troll -- it is another thing to say evil things in the process.  Just sad people who are projecting their insecurity, failures, and regrets in life.  Was fun at first, but then it just made me sad for them, so I stopped.
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It is not trolling to point out that surrogacy is now widely banned globally because of issues with exploitation and harm to the resulting children. That is a fact. You want to ignore that fact, and you can, because surrogacy is still allowed in the US. However, the US has become a significant outlier in this regard. All of that is factual and not trolling. [/quote]

That is indeed not trolling, though it is non-responsive.  And many other posts were absolutely trolling and disgusting -- don't know if that was you or not.  But to your point, OK, some surrogacy is undoubtedly exploitive.  Some clearly is not.  That is not exactly new information.  We all have Google.  So the information your are providing is both well-known and non-responsive.   [/quote]

It is interesting that you consider this information well-known, yet are still going enthusiastically down the path of surrogacy.

The child that results may (likely will) think very differently about the circumstances of his or her birth, particularly if surrogacy is largely banned as a practice by the time that child is an adult. There is a lot out there about how the international adoptees who were stolen from their birth parents feel as adults. Exploitation in adoption used to be legal as well, but that didn’t make it okay, and didn’t lessen the trauma of the children when they learned about the truth of their births. [/quote]

You are being intentionally presumptive to fit your agenda, as evidenced by, among other things, your "may (likely will)" comment."

Regardless, you have made the same point over and over again. We get it. You don't agree with surrogacy. It is banned in a lot of places. You think a child born of surrogacy may have issues with that.

I and many others obviously disagree with you wholeheartedly. So move on. [b]And FWIW, I couldn't care less if I found out my mother didn't carry me. Why would I care if she was unable and some other amazing woman gave her that gift? [/b]Quite the contrary, I would think it was amazing and would want to thank the gestational carrier from the bottom of my heart.[/quote]

Right. Because you are a misogynist. That has been established. Anyhow, I’m out. You aren’t going to care about women no matter what anyone says.

Gift. 🙄[/quote]

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