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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because society is struggling, children are struggling and our birth rate is falling.

That doesn't mean that their ideas will work, but I think that's why it's coming up.

Also, control of women is a priority for some pundit groups. [/quote]

Agreed. The research is quite clear that children  raised in two parent households fair much better, even when controlling for income. It really does a disservice to children and society to ignore reality.

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There are serious correlation/causation questions that need to be answered before this tells us very much that we can use. [/quote]

NP - No, there aren’t. No one reasonable disagrees that children fare better when there are more resources (attention (since neither mommy or daddy is dating other unrelated parties), money (since only paying for 1 household) etc.) going towards their care. [/quote]

Economist here and I have to agree that that link between correlation and causation is very clear here.[/quote]

Psychiatrist here, and I agree.  
It’s kind of baffling to me that someone can acknowledge that the way children grow up has a profound effect on their adult lives and then, at the same time, say that adults have total and complete agency over their lives.

Those things can not possibly both be true.  It’s illogical.  
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You can't seriously be suggesting that a child in a dysfunctional two parent household is better off than a child raised by a functional single parent. [/quote]

No.

I’m saying that a child raised in a dysfunctional home will likely be a dysfunctional adult and have difficulty with relationships.

It’s not like people can choose to be good partners, parents, employees, and they’ve just decided that they don’t want to.

If you disagree with me and say that people can and do make that choice as an adult, then why are we talking about how children are raised?  If your childhood doesn’t affect your adult life, then what does it matter how functional the home is?
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Pp again…
And if your childhood DOES affect your adult life (as it certainly does), then why are we pretending that anything a pundit says is going to make a difference in how people live their lives and maintain their relationships with their children and significant others?

There are huge genetic, biological, social, and psychological factors at play here.  It doesn’t matter if the pundits are wrong or right.  Unless they can have an effect on actual social policy, [b]they can’t change anything.[/b]  And even then, they can’t change much.  [/quote]

I admit I don't follow this conversation, but the pundits absolutely can change things. They are framing the conversation, and the conversation influences individual opinion and ultimately social policy. Many people are now convinced that single liberal women are to blame for a problem they just found out existed. [/quote]

I guess it can change a conversation for a brief period of time.  But it’s not ultimately going to change how children are raised.

I guess this makes sense since that’s the point.  No one in this really cares about single mothers and their children.

I keep forgetting that.

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