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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This reminds me of the kids who “publish” (I.e. their parents pay a prof to “work” with their kid and put their name on a paper).[/quote]

Pretty sure no professors would go for this as a paid arrangement. Come on!

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Junior assistant professors and lecturers do.[/quote]

The big name New York private college counselors facilitate this for your kid….yes it happens. Quite easy tbh.

Remember who is reading the application. It’s usually mid to late 20s woman (super-liberal/woke) who majored in a soft major likely at that same institution. She’s not going to do deep research on whether or not this professor at a random - sometimes no name or lower ranked uni is reputable or not.

Ask me how I know.[/quote]

The readers you describe are the first and/or second points of sorting/sifting in the process (sometimes the initial "read' is automated/algorithm). Do you think the senior AOs and Dean(s) who make the final decisions at elite, highly selective schools, usually through committees, don't know what is going on? Seriously asking your opinion. [/quote]

Have you actually sat through any college info sessions?  No one in admissions is a rocket scientist.[/quote]

You do realize that many of the AOs you describe are alumni or went to a peer school and didn’t get accepted TO. [/quote]

At my college, it wasn’t the top of the class that went on to work in admissions.[/quote]

Tell us which college and how you know the stats of the graduates that went to work in admissions, please.[/quote]

Not the PP you were conversing with, but having sat through multiple AO presentations during our college tour two years ago, it was clear some of them were NOT from the top drawer: I particularly remember a Middlebury AO. She was very limited, unfortunately. She was clearly a diversity hire (Middlebury is very white). Which was a shame, because the campus is beautiful, the buildings are gorgeous, etc. But since our tour guide was similarly empty-headed (she was white), we crossed that off our list. All those two could talk about was how January is snow month and all you have is an elective, and how candidates could enroll for the spring semester and they wouldn't be at all considered lower tier. They showed us slides of artwork made by students, and gushed about their study abroad language tours (which is their forte, but nowadays most of the top schools have similar opportunities). Just... not what I pay 70K for!

The AOs and tour guides at Williams, Dartmouth and Georgetown were all experienced, intelligent and interesting people. Apart from the Dartmouth wilderness orientation, which was barely touched on, it was all research opportunities (internships for Georgetown), how challenging but intellectually fulfilling the classes were, what the workload was like, etc. The AOs gave tips on what they expected on essays. Completely different world. One in which you go to college, to (GASP!), actually learn. That is what I pay 70K for.

There really can be a huge difference, so... be careful when you apply.[/quote]

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