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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't. I'm hoping they thank me later. Oldest not yet in high school, though, which is when it may be hard to hold out.

My closest childhood friend works for one of the big Silicon Valley companies. Her kids go to "Forest School" and she tries not to let them see the parents on devices at all. She's seen into the belly of the beast and knows enough to be scared.[/quote]

I have two in high school in fcps. Neither has it.
They are doing just fine. [/quote]

That’s cool. So are all the kids I know who do have it. We can share anecdotes all day.[/quote]

Sure Jan [/quote]

I know for some strange reason you want to believe all teens are depressed and mentally ill, but they just aren’t. Sorry to…disappoint you?[/quote]

DP. You think if a kid isn’t showing signs of full blown depression or mental illness that social media isn’t possibly affecting their mental wellbeing?[/quote]

No, but neither is it accurate to say that ALL or even MOST teens who have social media are negatively affected by it. It simply isn't true. The people asserting that either don't have teens at all, or their teens are not on social media, so they have no idea. [/quote]

Depends on how you define “negatively affected.”[/quote]

So your oldest is 8? 10? I know your type.[/quote]

Why do you assume that? My oldest is 15.[/quote]

If they don’t have social media, you are not qualified to remark on how it’s affecting their mental health. [/quote]

Geez, you REALLY love social media for your kids (and likely yourself). I know your type, too.[/quote]

Yet here you are. So much hand wringing![/quote]

Sigh.

If you believe DCUMAD is in any way comparable to the social media defendants being sued by 30 separate States Attorneys General, then you are truly stupid.

Perhaps TikTok has rotted your brain? [/quote]

DP but please explain the difference.  This site is addictive and a waste of time and is generally negative.  (For example, if you were discussing this issue with PP would you call her “truly stupid” to her face?  I should certainly hope not!)

This form of social media (and it absolutely IS social media) is not inherently better just because it’s the form that YOU’RE addicted to.[/quote]

OK; I wrote the prior response so I’ll bite:

Sure, you can loosely call DCUMAD “social media” - but the similarities end there.

- algorithm:  Jeff’s board does not have one.  Moreover, even if he did, Jeff is nothing like the highly-paid, evil-geniuses behind SM such as TikTok, which carefully studies your viewing habits, then purposefully DIRECTS you to new posts/videos to intentionally keep you on the site.  No, DCUMAD is completely different: you and you-alone decide where to go on this board.

- tracking: DCUMAD does not do that to you.  This site does not even have log-on names for 99% of users

- big data:  this site is not connected to it.  All other SM is deeply intertwined with big data

- selling your info: this site does not sell your data to 3rd parties.  All other SM does.

- content ownership:  other SM’s own the content you creat and post over there.  You did not know?  Yes - it’s right in the terms you agreed to on Insta, FB, etc - but you never bothered to read every word, did you.

There are too many other differences to list.[/quote]

The previous poster asked me to review her post for accuracy so I will provide the following feedback:

- algorithm the closest thing we have to an algorithm is the "Recent Topics" thread which is probably the most primitive algorithm in existence. It simply lists the topics that have most recently been updated. Similarly, the "Hottest Topics" page lists the topics with the most views. But, I would go a step further and point out that troll posts are regularly among the most active threads and I lock or delete them when I find them. A traditional social media platform would encourage and promote such threads because they are guaranteed to generate traffic. I actively shut them down.

- tracking, big data, selling your info. I do very limited tracking as most posters are aware. This is to combat trolls and other malicious users. None of what I do is for financial gain but rather for site integrity purposes. In addition, we use advertising networks that to some extent do more. Advertisers use cookies and other means to track you, they analyze that data in order to make decisions about which, if any, ads to serve, and they may sell the data they gleam. Note, they cannot gather any personally identifying data from this site because we don't collect it. Even if you created an account, the most they could get is your name and email address but I don't even provide them access to that (though they ask a lot).

Content ownership. I haven't really thought about it but I guess, technically, I own the content.

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