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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Joran van der Sloot almost certainly killed her. He murdered another girl 5 years later in Peru, was caught, pled guilty, and is now in prison.

And, 9:53, you're disgusting.[/quote]

Agreed on all counts.[/quote]

+100000.

Classic victim blaming.[/quote]

Risk reduction is not victim-blaming.

- NP[/quote]

Still victim blaming.  Most of us have been drunk before but not raped and murdered. Because we didn’t run into a rapist or murderer.    It is never the victims fault. [/quote]

NP, I agree that risk reduction is not victim blaming. A teenage girl was just struck and killed in an auto pedestrian accident in the next town. She was running with air pods, and crossed against the signal without looking, according to a friend who unfortunately witnessed the collision. Should she have been struck by a car? No. Is it less likely that she would have been killed had she not been wearing AirPods? Perhaps. In your world, it is victim blaming to tell your kids not to wear AirPods when they run on the street. For the rest of us, it’s just parenting. [/quote]

Do you really not understand the difference between the two?  In your example there’s no rapist and intentional murder.  If your kid were walking home with their AirPods in and got raped and murdered, would you blame the AirPod choice or the rapist/murder?

Risk mitigation is part of life, yes.  But she’s was killed only because she didn’t know she was with a sociopath criminal.  If he had been a nice guy, none of us would know that he just walked her home safely.  HE and HIS choices are the problem. [/quote]

The point is that risk mitigation is valid whether it’s a rapist or getting hit by lightning. It’s the environment. Would you stroll the streets of cape town after dark? It’s not your fault that there are people who intend to harm you. If you do get assaulted, it’s not your fault in that it wasn’t your choice, but clearly, your actions contributed to the consequence.

You have to separate cause and effect from blame. The driver of the car who has a heart attack and hits a pedestrian is the cause of the accident, but is not to blame. Get it? [/quote]

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