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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m sorry, but you don’t seem to have a good grasp of the strengths and weaknesses of most AAP ES students. While there could be somewhere some who are failing, I haven’t met parents of any failing AAP students just yet. No one I talked with feels there is a need for supplementing either. Math enrichment at our school implies learning math outside of the school altogether and often in an environment that is far more demanding and comprehensive than the AAP school math itself. These are the kids that go to regional and international competitions. The stronger the group of the students, the more likely is your “exclusively-learning-at-school” kid to “struggle - as compared to the rest of the class” (as in not get 100%, or get a 3 instead of a 4) when teacher bypasses instruction simply because majority of students learned the topic somewhere else. By the time Middle School comes, the knowledge gap becomes an obstacle to take higher level math courses. And this is not because your kid did not pay attention, but because they were expected to learn many concepts outside of the school and their parents thought they can just rely on the school. As a matter of fact, I would argue that if you are not doing any enrichment, you shouldn’t do AAP math at all because they are flying over some important math concepts that are covered at a better pace in GenEd. By the time your kid reaches Middle School they will have to go back to the same level of math courses as kids who did not attend AAP program at all. But, you do you. [/quote] This is truly nuts. As someone else posted, this isn't rocket science. It's 3rd 4th, 6th grade math. You "AOPS" "math competition" posters need to get over yourselves. And consider complaining about the lousy instruction from your DC's teachers.[/quote]I feel like the "AOPS" "math competition" posters would want to underestimate rather than overestimate the difficulty of AAP math - "AAP isn't [i]really[/i] challenging the way AoPS/RSM/MOEMS is."[/quote] I agree with this. LIV/ Advanced Math is challenging for a lot of kids. It just is. There is a subset that are not challenged but that is a smaller number than most the people posting here think. If you were good at math and your kid is good at math then you probably think that the math is easy. I can see that there are schools were more kids are enrolled in math enrichment and how that can cause issues at those schools. I would guess that this is the case at more higher SES schools were parents are determined that their kid end up at TJ. As for the posts about kids burning out because of enrichment, we ask DS at least three times if he wants to continue with RSM. We ask at the end of the school year, when enrollment for the next year opens, when we get the first invoice, and when we get the last invoice. If he said he was done, we would respect his choice. He has asked to continue for four years and asked to test into competition math. Most kids drop rec sports between 6 and 8th grade, I am sure math will be the same. [/quote]
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