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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree with some earlier posters that talking about emails is a bit of a red herring. Every profession (and presumably teachers want to be considered a profession not just a job) deals with long hours and annoying emails.

The difference for me, and frankly the thing they should actually be complaining about, is the behavior of the kids and especially the violence. That should be 100% unacceptable. No student or teacher should go to school knowing there’s a non-insignificant chance that they’ll be hurt today.

If teachers rallied around that one issue only then they’d get full support from the community - and therefore the lawmakers - and we could actually keep teachers (and kids!) safe. I think that would help a lot.[/quote]

No, they wouldn't get full support from the community.  We don't have support from admins on this.  We don't have support from school boards on this.  Why do you imagine "the community" would support us?  There'd be push back from all kinds of groups of people.  [/quote]

+1. The people supporting discipline are reviled as racist or ableist or not respectful of the kid's lived experience or something. [/quote]

Yep.  The behaviour is kids is pretty much the only (and it is huge) valid complain teachers have and it absolutely needs to change how schools deal with it.  It is sad that it wont likely change bc everyone is too afraid it isn’t PC, and the backlash they would receive.

All the other teacher complains are pretty much complaints everyone has about  their job[/quote]

I agree about the discipline but I think you're naive to think that their other complaints are petty and incidental. There are huge systemic problems with our education system that teachers are forced to grapple with. Schools are not adequately funded, particularly when viewed in the context of our other inadequately funded social safety net programs. Even as teachers are underpaid, schools are forced to pick up the slack in non-educational areas as well. Right wing policymakers are trying to side-step dealing with these inadequacies with programs like vouchers and charter schools; but this is foolish. None of the successful educational systems in other parts of the world use vouchers or charters. [/quote]

Schools are adequately funded, in fact, better funded than most of the world.  But the funds are misused.  Schools can’t and shouldn’t function as the provider of a days worth of food, therapies, counselling, medical needs, clothing closet, etc.  School is an educational institution and needs to start functioning solely as such.  Majority of educational funds are inappropriately allocated for social welfare purposes. [/quote]

Yes, schools here actually have TOO MUCH money, that’s the problem. They get high on their own power and there are expectations that since we’re giving them SO MUCH money then they need to address other issues.

The cost of educating one student for one year is higher here in the US than in any other country in the world, by far, sometimes by 10x![/quote]

Where do you get the idea that they are given too much money? I agree with PP that funds are often misused but how much do you think it should cost to educate a child? In VA it costs 14K per year. How much should it be?[/quote]

Idaho does it for $8k and Florida does it for $10k.

In DC it’s $23k per student per year average which is completely insane.  Obviously there are problems in some areas that more money can’t fix.[/quote]

Kids from rich families are generally cheaper to educate than kids from poor families. [/quote]

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