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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How disgusting Mila and Ashton wrote letters. Gross fake wile celebs. [/quote]

That’s a tough one for me.
If they are friends, which they have been for a very long time, they likely do not believe that their friend is capable of such atrocities. 
A character letter doesn’t speak to the veracity of the charge. It just says we know him to be a swell guy, and we love and trust him, etc. 
If you were accused of doing these things and you swore up and down to your friends and to the world that you didn’t do it —wouldn’t you hope that one or two of those friends would say “yes of course I will write a character reference for you”

They may truly believe him to be innocent.
And in that case, it isn’t disgusting for them to write a letter on his behalf that says something to the effect of “these accusations are not aligned with the person that I’ve known him to be over the past 30 years”[/quote]

I can't view it this way because I've experienced, as a rape survivor, being told by people "that's just not who he is," and it's just gaslighting. Good for you he never raped you, but you don't actually know he is, and acting like your experience with him can be placed next to my experience and weighed equally is BS.

Statements like this also tend to emphasize to survivors that they were chosen as victims specifically because they lacked the power and social capital of others. Masterson would never have attacked Kunis because she, like him, was famous and wealthy and there was no power differential to exploit. He only raped people he could dominate. This is a horrible feeling as a survivor, to realize you were chosen for your relative weakness, that your attacker knew people would be less likely to care about what happens to you or believe what you have to say.

And usually it works, and it dies so specifically because people in power will circle up and protect one of their own. Which is what Mila and Ashton were doing. Glad to see it didnt work this time.[/quote]

These are such good points and won’t penetrate the lead-lined brain of the Mila and Ashton apologist. To hell with them.[/quote]

I agree that PP has good points, but YOUR instinct to go on the personal attack here is unnecessary.
Predictable, though, if you are under 40,  because somewhere along the way we lost the civility to be able to just discuss the nuance and the whys of things without jumping to the conclusion that someone must decidedly be a "lead-lined brained apologist" for just wondering aloud whether there could possibly be a rational reason for them to offer up a character letter beyond that they are monstrous, terrible, evil people.

Maybe that's the answer and they ARE monstrous terrible evil people who support a monstrous man. But the point of the post was to say "maybe they saw what they were doing in a different light" as the act of friendship and support of someone they believed at the time to be innocent of the accusations.

I get that opinions are strong and heated. But the nuance in the discussion (that even the PP seemed to understand) is the question of whether or not it is okay for people to "support" a friend who professes his innocence by providing these letters if they genuinely believed him. The answer can still be "no it's not okay" from you without you hurling accusations the person asking the question is automatically an apologist.
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