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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When the applicant uses / abuses ChatGPT for the essays and still get rejected, that will be poetic justice.

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Also poetic justice…all the nubes claiming this is cheating, having their kids rejected…just for the colleges to expressly allow it within one or two more application cycles.[/quote]

Name calling doesn't negate that this is cheating.  Colleges may treat writing differently in the future (like bring back sat essay), but the current expectation is that the writing is the student's.

Stop denigrating people with integrity to justify cheating.  It's a poor excuse and makes you look like a self-serving parasite. [/quote]

Putting write me an essay about X is cheating. Putting your essay in a AI and having it edited is no different than a college counselor editing it.

It’s not cheating [/quote]

It is cheating.  As is having it edited (as in editor is adding/reworking content). Students can get feedback,  but construction and syntax should be theirs. An editor (human or AI) has a voice.  This may be fine for the publication industry, but it defeats the purpose of a personal essay. 
FWIW,  most essay help services don't bill themselves as editors.  I hope they aren't editing.
Giving feedback on what didn't work and helping brainstorm are fine. Devising content is not.[/quote]

Of course kids have their essays edited. How are you so unaware?

Kids write drafts and an editor reworks it and helps them structure it.

The kids rewrites and the editor fixes grammar and sentence structure.

That’s how it’s worked for decades.[/quote]

Agree. 💯 
All these old farts on here are delusional and truly clueless. [/quote]

Or just gatekeeping/moral-shaming others into not doing what they routinely do.. Remember the AAP forums where these same people shame Asians for 'prepping' for TJ while they 'enrich' their kids, spend thousands on sports coaching and $500/hr for SAT prep? Same shit. [/quote]

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