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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This argument is so pointless and mean minded too. You ladies want to hold out some kind of moral superiority for the way you love your children and are acting as though you are blind to the obvious reality that billions of people don’t love their kids all that much or else we wouldn’t have billions of abused and formerly abused children walking this earth.

‘Love’ is a feeling created by hormones and neurons in a complex reaction in the human brain. There is nothing moral about it.

Of course humans can experience the same exact complex reaction in their brains about animals or other humans unrelated to them etc.

Just like spawning doesn’t automatically compel a human to healthy parenting, it doesn’t automatically confer a greater capacity for experiencing ‘love’ in the human brain than exists in human brains whose bodies never spawn. All certitude to the contrary is just made up social convention BS, no matter how vehemently you believe it or preach it.

Science, ladies.[/quote]

👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽Exactly this.

A lot of the mothers on this website have this inherent need to use their motherhood as a throne upon which they sit and judge other women.

It reeks of insecurity, and it’s just stupid. [/quote]

And they do it to women who are infertile, which is unbelievably cruel. 
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f you use a dog as a surrogate child you deserve all the derision that is heaped on you. I don’t care if it’s because you’re infertile.

Also you talk about “spawning” like it’s nothing special but the cold truth is that not everyone who wants to can get pregnant and carry the pregnancy to term[/quote]

Okay so you made not just one, but two comments to reiterate how special and sometimes difficult it is to give birth to a child and STILL crap all over women who can't....because they might love their dogs. On a pet forum.

My question is why? You're the winner who gets to be a real mother! You're not some sad woman who never got to experience this amazing thing, and maybe spent many terrible years and all her money trying. So you see this tragic woman who couldn't do this special thing that not everyone can do, but you could do, and maybe she's cuddling her dog who she seems to really really love. And let's assume that she loves her dog so much not because she just loves her dog but because she doesn't have children too. You think that this sad lady deserves...derision. Heaped on her.
 
You're right, being a mother is a very special thing. And you're right that not everyone can do it. This is a cold, hard truth. And so you feel that a woman who has to live with this truth, and happens to love her pet, deserves not understanding, or grace, or even some pity, but scorn.

Are you the kind of person who kicks a sleeping man in the nuts when you walk past him? Because I truly don't understand this thinking. You've won! You're a real mother! The most negative thing that you should feel toward the "losers" is pity. But for some reason you're angry and hateful. [/quote]
That pp is hateful, but mostly, I think this thread just shows that there are different fundamental approaches to love. Some people are just extremely loving. They give love freely and love many. Other people have strict criteria for who is deserving of their love. They limit it to a very small inner circle. There is no right or wrong here, just different personality types.[/quote]

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