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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You are buying a puppy, not adopting one. I really hate that cutesy disingenuous statement from buyers & breeders. [/quote]

I mean this sincerely:  How is getting a puppy from a rescue an "adoption," and researching carefully and finding a puppy to preserve a breed somehow not also "adopting" a dog to be a member of your family?[/quote]

[b]Adopting a dog from a not for profit rescue organization usually involves paying a fee that covers a portion of the vetting they've done. [/b]  The fee typically covers just a fraction of those costs and the organization does periodic fundraisers etc. to cover the rest.  (Fees are sometimes waived for senior dogs, which are harder to place).  When you adopt a dog from a shelter or rescue organization, you are giving a second chance to that dog which may have been abandoned, surrendered by their previous owners, or rescued from a situation of neglect or abuse.  That makes room for another such dog in the rescue or shelter, who may otherwise have had to be euthanized.  Adopting saves dogs' lives.

[b]Buying a dog from a breeder or a pet shop involves paying for a product, namely a purebred dog[/b] (or a mix that is highly desirable to you).  The breeder is in the business of producing that product and presumably profits from their sales.[/quote]

Same/same.

Both adopters are paying for their dog. Both fees cover the expenses of caring for the dog or puppy.

The fact that one dog was in a bad situation doesn’t negate that both dogs are adopted into their new homes.
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Incorrect. 
Rescue orgs are generally non-profit. The adoption fees go into caring and rescuing other dogs. For example, a puppy at a rescue doesn't cost them $500, but that fee goes towards the surgery for the dog they just picked up that was hit by a car. That fee goes towards medications for the elderly dog that was abandoned because the owner cant afford medication. All of those fees go back into the rescue to help care for and save other dogs. For-profit organizations do not do this.

And I'm not anti-breeder. GOOD breeders are doing really good things. GOOD breeders are breeding health back into breeds like pugs/bostons/frenchies - dogs that have been so poorly bred that they can barely go for a walk without hyperventilating. Good breeders care for their animals, and have contracts to return the dog to them if you can no longer care for it. Good breeders are testing for medical issues and alerting you up front.

I do think there should be better resources for people to find the good breeders. I understand that a rescue isnt for everyone. But resorting to puppy mills and supporting animal cruelty is not the answer. [/quote]

Again, they are no different from a breeder charging for services.  Only difference is they get tax benefits and donations. [/quote]
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. They are taking in unwanted dogs, caring for them and giving them a good home. They aren't making a profit to buy a nice home, they are using that money to save more unwanted dogs. To me a for-profit business is not the same as a charity/non-profit.

I'm not familiar with the south and pit bulls (not sure if that was your post or not), so I cant really comment on that. The rescues I work with mainly deal with reserve dogs. There is a large trap neuter/spay return aspect for their owned animals who run free, so at least they aren't procreating, which helps. [/quote]
Yet rescues still take the few decent non-pit dogs and put them out of reach for most would be pet owners. It’s basically just adding redundancy to the shelter system and it’s moronic.[/quote]

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