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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s clear the public is on democrats side on the issue.  Pro-choice wins whenever it’s on the ballot even in red states.  The trick is translating that into candidate elections.  When people vote for candidates, they are thinking about many issues and abortion is just one.[/quote]

You would think rhetoric along the lines of "this is an issue of freedom for a woman and mother, it is between her and her medical practitioner, not the state" would resonate with non-evangelical libertarians.[/quote]

I think most rationale people realize that if the mother is seeking to terminate a pregnancy, there is no one to advocate for the developing-person-in-utero except the state.  And the state has no tool to give it a voice except by laws.[/quote]

I’m loving how out of touch and deluded you are. Mostly because it makes fighting for women’s rights easier. Carry on. [/quote]

I think the lines drawn by the Roe v Wade decision were reasonable limitations.  Is that “out of touch”?  Those limitations are the state acting on behalf of the fetus.  I disagree that this is an issue that can simply be left to the mother and her medical provider.  [/quote]

Then what are you doing to restore those rights? What did you do to prevent their erosion?

Roe was a gift to the conservatives and they didn’t even realize it. It gave them partial control during a time in history where people were willing to accept the idea that the state could have partial control of a woman’s body.

Now the states have shown what they’d do with total control: let ten year old rape victims bear their rapists children. Shown what the states do with total control, I’m not at all surprised more people don’t want to trust them with a little control anymore. [/quote]

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