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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s clear the public is on democrats side on the issue.  Pro-choice wins whenever it’s on the ballot even in red states.  The trick is translating that into candidate elections.  When people vote for candidates, they are thinking about many issues and abortion is just one.[/quote]

You would think rhetoric along the lines of "this is an issue of freedom for a woman and mother, it is between her and her medical practitioner, not the state" would resonate with non-evangelical libertarians.[/quote]

I think most rationale people realize that if the mother is seeking to terminate a pregnancy, there is no one to advocate for the developing-person-in-utero except the state.  And the state has no tool to give it a voice except by laws.[/quote]

I’m loving how out of touch and deluded you are. Mostly because it makes fighting for women’s rights easier. Carry on. [/quote]

I think the lines drawn by the Roe v Wade decision were reasonable limitations.  Is that “out of touch”?  Those limitations are the state acting on behalf of the fetus.  I disagree that this is an issue that can simply be left to the mother and her medical provider.  [/quote]

Let’s play a different game.  You have a set of identical twins.  One of the siblings needs a kidney transplant and is doing vital national security work.  The only match identified is with the twin.  Twin does not want to be an organ donor.  Patient is at end of life without a new kidney. Does the state have a right here to insist that the twin become an organ donor?  Or is this a choice that can only be made by the donor?  [/quote]

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