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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office?  Really?[/quote]

No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant. 
Really.[/quote]
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds. [/quote]

This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.

Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)

I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.[/quote]

I’m a fed who loves telework and think the RTO pitch is definitely driven by private sector financial interests. And I’m not some huge fan of Biden either, but there’s no way I’m voting Republican when women’s reproductive rights are being taken away and guns are one of the top killers of children in this country. I’m not giving up my morals in some total gamble that maybe a Republican will be more telework friendly. Also, remember which party is trying to decrease the power of unions, which have a huge part in negotiating telework agreements at many agencies.

It’s just such a bizarre take to vote R over this. [/quote]

1. Reproductive rights aren't changing for the better anytime soon. That battle is lost. The Supreme Court is 6-3.
2. Gun deaths are out of control in DC. What have Biden and Boswer done to prevent these gun deaths?
3. How is Biden honoring unions when he seems to believe that he can single-handedly force federal employees back to the office?

[b]Maybe you should start demanding that Biden actually show some results for your vote[/b].[/quote]

We know that Republicans that currently lead the party will make life hell for Federal employees. 
I mean, Biden should do better, but he knows we have no other real options.[/quote]

Or maybe Biden is doing the right, and even the Democratic, thing. Democrats typically support urban centers and those areas are the most hurt by 100% WFH. As for the right thing, maybe WFH folks need to think about more than themselves. In fact, the world is pretty interconnected and the ramifications of urban decay can easily feed to areas where WFH folks thought they were isolated. The pandemic has made people extremely selfish. [/quote]

Why the fudge should I care about issues like urban decay. Sure, "because we live in a society." But why us? No one cared to pay us enough to live there, so why is this one sided? If you want us to care now, you should have at least pretended to care about us.[/quote]

I never understand selfish civil servants who don’t care about their communities. Why did you get into this line of work if you don’t care about broader issues in society?[/quote]

This motivation is part of why some of us make so little, and thus live so far away. Most of our work is regional, national, or international, and I'm on Teams calls with people in other locations half of every day. So why is downtown DC "my community," and not the place I live, where my kids are growing up, or the places my work impacts?

I'm only going to "help" DC by burning gas, there literally isn't a single metro stop, coffee shop, or lunch place I can walk to in less than half an hour (which is the full length of my lunch break). Hard to see the positive impact for society there. [/quote]

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