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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It isn’t fair but that’s the rule. I’m sure those who think it’s fair also think it’s fair when newly 19 year old division 1 swimmers finish a full year of college training, and then return home to swim against kids who were 14 years old a few weeks ago.

Clearly, that’s fair, too. [/quote]

It is 7-8 weeks of summer swimming, just relax.  I’m so surprised people are thinking about fairness with such a short, only for fun, activity.  The pools don’t even have blocks and the distances are a joke, and there is a mixed age relay; just have your kid enjoy it and focus on improving their times.  Who even examines other kids’ ages that closely?  And yeah, in the VERY unusual circumstance where a D1 swimmer with a summer birthday came back and did summer swimming the kids on our team would be psyched to see them, nbd.  I can’t imagine someone getting seriously upset about this.  [/quote]

People are upset because a 10U boy is 11 years and 5 weeks and are claiming some huge advantage. What about the Olympians and nationally ranked swimmers who come back to swim for their summer pool?

How is that fair? My kid doesn’t even club swim but these kids have access to the best coaching in the world /s

“Katie Ledecky returns to her summer swim league to sign autographs — and set records” - WaPo

I’m kidding of course - I love this aspect of summer swim, but it puts into perspective how silly the moving the cutoff argument is. 
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I think I having a cutoff is appropriate for summer swim because the season is so short, but don’t pretend that using August 1 instead of June 1 is ridiculous. It creates the same issue for small groups of swimmers regardless of the cutoff date you use. An 11 year 5 week old competing in the 9-10 group is the same as the 10 year 11 month old competing in the 11-12 group, it just disadvantages different small groups of swimmers. [/quote]

It’s not the same when you are talking about the next age groups up.  It creates a mich bigger discrepancy in the 13-14 and 15-18 groups.  Hormones.  Just let it go man![/quote]i
No, with an August cutoff you would be talking about kids swimming up for a few weeks into an age group that they are only weeks from being anyway. It’s the same thing as the June cutoff allowing kids who are just past their birthday to swim down for a few weeks. Your hormones argument works both ways because you are talking about very small periods of time, a kid who is 12 years 11 months old is not appreciably different from the kid who is 13 years and 1 week old, and vice versa. If you think a kid who is 12 years 11 months old is being horribly disadvantaged by swimming in the 13-14 year old category, it’s the same disadvantage for the 11-12 year olds to have a kid that is 13 years and 1 month swimming in their group. [/quote]

You have spent way too much time thinking about this.  I suggest a breath of fresh air.[/quote]
This is the level of deflection my kids use. I’m sorry that basic logic is beyond your capabilities though, because the logic behind this doesn’t require a lot of thought. [/quote]

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