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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm seeing that the definition of "hook" might vary.

[b]-Top grades
-Top scores[/b]
-Awards
[b]-Leadership
-Volunteer [/b]
[b]-Strong eval teachers[/b] / alum
-URM / UR rural area
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The bolded aren't hooks.[/quote]
Are awards even considered a hook?  Recruited athlete, legacy and URM. [/quote]

Why not? If you win Regeneron STS or something that definitely grabs the attention of admissions teams.[/quote]
No doubt national award would have a positive affect on an application. I just always considered a hook to be a talent, trait or characteristic (forgot geography too). Honest question, will an award get you admitted over a perceived stronger candidate?  IDK. [/quote]

Maybe, but remembering the post about Coca-Cola Scholars and where they go to college, the correlation is so strong for these top-tier awards that it almost feels like a hook:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Z5DSn0h.png[/img][/quote]

I believe there is a significant overlap between Coca-Cola scholars and some of the many merit scholarships at Duke, especially the Robertson Scholars program (which is full scholarship for 4 years) which rewards the same things the Coca-Cola scholarship does (merit/leadership/community service).  [/quote]

That's speculation unless you have actual data for it. Yale, UPenn, Columbia, etc. offer scholarships too. I think from what I've seen Harvard is #1 for Coca-Cola Scholars by a wide margin, as would be expected.[/quote]

No, the ivy league does not award any merit, talent, or athletic scholarships. [/quote]

They do have merit scholarships though. They keep it on the down low, but they have many. Yale has scholarships like Hahn and YES scholarships. Columbia has scholarships like Egleston and Kluge scholarships. UPenn has scholarships like Ben Franklin and Vagelos scholarships. The only schools with no scholarships of any form are HPSM.[/quote]

These are not true scholarships. They are small token awards for research funding, like Hahn only offers less than 5,000 to specifically fund one summer of research. They do not cover tuition or Housing. [/quote]

Same with egleston. You get up to 10k once in 4 years which can only be used for summer research funding, not tuition or fees. That’s not a true scholarship, it’s a research stipend [/quote]

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