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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My daughter, who's white, quit CS during her first year to do political instead. She got great grades but found the culture and department to be stressful and alienating as a woman from a low-income Midwestern background. Her best friend, Asian American from CA, stuck with CS but took 6 years to graduate and enjoyed her English and Classics classes a lot more. Of course, it all worked out; DD got into a T14 law school and best friend is a Product Manager at FAANG but neither enjoyed college very much.[/quote]

PP with the unhappy Black daughter here. Yes, “neither enjoyed college very much” really resonates — the happiest students at Stanford tend to be either the Greeks or the ones who are happy with the competitive, fast-paced, and achievement-oriented culture. [/quote]
And the athletes! My son and his teammates had a blast at Stanford and have gone on to do well in a variety of fields, as have their friends from other teams. Both the general alumni network and the athlete one are very strong. [/quote]

PP here. Yes, the athletes are quite happy too — they’re a tight knit group. [/quote]

Stanford is one of the places where the recent athletes don't seem to do quite as well professionally though. There are wonderful exceptions but it was too bad when I was on campus how concentrated athletes, especially in sports like football and basketball, were in certain majors. What is Science, Technology & Society anyway?[/quote]

I am an alum and I disagree with this. Their alumni athletes do very, very well, probably because they tend to be excellent students too. In some ways they fit the current Stanford mold well: exceptionally competitive and exceptionally project management oriented. [/quote]

The academic profiles of Stanford's revenue-generating or close to revenue-generating sport athletes also don't stack up well with the Ivy League athletes in those sports, so it isn't shocking they might not do quite as well. Science, Technology & Society has been big in football for a while. The athletes have a lot of academic support though, which Stanford doubled down on after some trouble with the Lopez twins.
Guys like Andrew Luck and Christian McCaffrey have done better than just about anyone in their years too  :lol: [/quote]

Why would the academic profiles of Stanford's revenue-generating athletes "stack up well" against the Ivy Leagues?  Stanford is recruiting to win a national championship in football, basketball and baseball...while Ivy Leagues have absolutely no illusion they will ever win a national championship in those sports (even Princeton was surprised they were in the Sweet 16...Penn made it to the Final 4 in 1979).

Duke historically for men's basketball...well let's be honest, there really were no academic standards other than the absolute minimum.  Up until the NBA changed their rules, nearly the entire starting 5 only attended Duke for 1 year and then jumped to the NBA...and that was understood and tolerated even when they were recruited.

I bet if you compare the stats of say Ivy League lacrosse teams, you might find them reversed compared to Stanford.[/quote]

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