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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is horrifying to me how many people are unaware of how poorly trained the far majority of NP's are.  They can get their degrees from 100% online programs (AKA degree mills).  They may be absolutely lovely in person, but the bottom line is that they don't know what they don't know.  It is an absolute travesty what they have done to the field of medicine.  Primary care is one of the most difficult things because 99% of the time, everything is fine.  But you need to see thousands of cases of normal in order to detect the abnormal.[/quote]

At least an NP sees actually patients all throughout 4 yrs of nursing school and even if getting NP online, is likely working as a nurse seeing patients concurrently.

PAs see zero patients during all of undergrad while they major in biology or whatever science (or sometimes not even science) they pick as their major. During their 2 yrs of PA school, they have a couple clinal rotations for a portion of that time.  If anyone is vastly undertrained, it is PAs [/quote]

It is common consensus that PAs have better, slightly longer, and more rigorous training than NPs overall, mainly due to tighter regulations and their clinical rotations being actual rotations for their role, in mandated settings. Nursing students are not "seeing patients" when they are on the floor during their training to become a nurse.  They shadow and help the nurses, none of this prepares them for diagnosing and differentiating diseases - it is different.   Also, completely online nursing programs are increasingly popular.  LPN to RN in 16 months online is also an option.  Things are not how they used to be anymore. [/quote]

You are talking about two separate things.  Nursing students getting their RN or BSN is entirely different than the schooling for when that nurse moves on to become a NP.  They absolutely “see patients” in their NP clinical rotations.  NPs have way way more clinical experience and hands on patient experience- which is really important.  A lot of what these mid level practitioners are doing are recognizing what is not normal and then getting help.  They aren’t Dr House [/quote]

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