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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t understand why the baby had to suffer for 99 minutes. With all the pain management available today, couldn’t they have given[b] it [/b]something to take away the pain. Even if [b]it [/b]was stoned completely out of [b]its [/b]mind, if you knew [b]it [/b]was dying anyway, you wouldn’t have to worry about long term brain damage or addiction. [/quote]

He. Milo.

You could say it when she wanted to terminate after finding out the baby wouldn’t survive. They forced her to carry to term and give birth to a baby that would live 99 minutes to watch him struggle and die. They also had to pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege of watching their son die.

Let’s not sanitize or dehumanize Milo’s death or the family’s experience and pretend it wasn’t traumatic or preventable. Let’s not pretend the family or doctors were cruel because they couldn’t give him a pain free (albeit short) life. That’s why she wanted to terminate in the first place. To prevent her son from experiencing that pain, to prevent herself and her family from having to watch him suffer through it.

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Would an abortion at that stage of development not be painful?

Agree that it would have prevented some agony for the parents.[/quote]

"2. Do patients having a surgical abortion prefer to have
fetal demise induced before abortion?
Some patients may prefer to have fetal demise induced
before the abortion procedure begins. The prevalence of this
preference is difficult to assess precisely, because it may be
influenced by counseling and education and because patients
may believe that stating such a preference is more socially
acceptable. One study that assessed this preference was
conducted in conjunction with a 126-subject, double-blinded
trial of 1 mg intra-amniotic digoxin dose [68]. In a
questionnaire that subjects completed after their procedure,
92% reported a strong preference for fetal demise before
abortion. Among the women who preferred feticidal
injection before their abortion procedure (n=107), 29%
believed the injection would make the procedure easier and
19% less painful for the woman having the termination [68].
However, the generalizability of this result is limited. This
question was posed to patients within the context of a clinical
trial in which many of them believed the injection might
make their abortion safer. Also, the social acceptability of a
positive response may have skewed the results. In one
induction termination study, the authors' discussion included
the statement, “feticide was perceived as the most difficult
moment confronted by the women during the termination
process.” However, their method of drawing this conclusion
was not elucidated [59].
3. Does induction of fetal demise have any benefit related
to fetal perception of pain during an abortion?
It is difficult to determine whether or not a fetus has the
ability to perceive pain, which by its definition requires
cortical interpretation of noxious stimuli. A multidisciplinary
review of the medical evidence concluded that a fetus cannot
experience pain until 29 weeks of gestation at the earliest,
when thalamocortical connections are first present [75]. In
the past, withdrawal reflexes and the release of hormonal
stress hormones have been indicated as evidence of fetal pain
perception. This review shows evidence that both withdrawal reflexes and hormonal stress hormones can be elicited by
nonpainful stimuli and can occur without conscious cortical
processing. Therefore, the best indicator as to when a fetus
has potentially the capacity to experience pain is the
development of the thalamocortical axons, which do not
occur until at least 29 weeks of gestational duration;
however, their functionality within the intrauterine environment has not been determined. With the difficulty of
establishing any clear way to measure fetal pain and the
lack of specific markers for fetal pain, any potential pain of
the means of inducing fetal demise cannot be assessed either.
By inducing fetal demise the issue of whether the fetus could
experience pain during the abortion can be circumvented
[73], which is another reason feticide may be offered by
some providers."

https://www.societyfp.org/_documents/resources/InductionofFetalDemise.pdf[/quote]

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